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Mondeo Man
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PostPosted: 12:41 - 07 Apr 2012    Post subject: What does the future hold? (technology) Reply with quote

Not a lot of people realise, but they live today with more comfort and convenience than princes did 200 years ago. If a prince of yesteryear spent a day in the life of the average scum on the street, he'd think that sod was some sort of alien magician: imagine what they would make of all the gadgets we have. We have opportuniities on a par with kings and queens of yesteryear(although we waste it with time killing distractions like facebook, etc)

It is very hard to imagine a world before the one we know now. So what do you think the world will be like, say, two hundred years, 500 years, hence?

Positives:
It seems fairly clear to me that humans will reach the point of controlling the action of atoms, leading to the seeding and creation of new sister planets. I think also humans will become part machine, evetually becoming immortal, by replacing parts. Robots wil be lifelike and will become like pets and eventually lovers.

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In the shorter picture, I think a global fascist state is on the cards. Humans will be microchipped, and the microchip will control all transactions - social, financial, sexual, etc. Milions of undesirables will be wiped out. Global war will be the norm, but it will be a hopeless battle. The surviving few will pursue the above vision, and the great 'middle' will be the donkey class, before being replaced by machines and exterminated.
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 07 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we will all be killed off by ourselves before AI exists properly.

I don't think we are going to have cool microchips in us either. Like I said, we will all be dead soon whether it is nuclear war or just a load of bad events over 50 years that just slowly kill everyone off.
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 07 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The current population, never mind its exponential growth, is unsustainable unless we deploy free energy. And even that will only delay disaster. This civilisation is headed for total collapse, thanks to it being run by sub-human degenerate filth.
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 07 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I.d swap bill gates life for to be a prince 200 years ago, with more free space, horses and slags at the ready, no fickle book.

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PostPosted: 21:25 - 07 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Artist wrote:
I think we will all be killed off by ourselves before AI exists properly.


A.I already exists, i did a whole degree in it! Laughing
You probably mean artificial conciousness / digital life which is pointless and may get made just for the sake of it.
I think programmable biology is going to be the thing of the future. Humans are designed to interact with creatures and the 'real world' so we will eventually end up fusing our technology with biology to make that possible.
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 07 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

End up ..... Already happening, that's how my smoothies are made.
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 07 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't it as simple as ai can be quite a simple thing in conte t, think that's what he meant.
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 07 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the future we will all be very sexy and wear tight silver clothing. We will commute to work in flying cars and for lunch we will have a couple of pouches of nutrition powder. We each will have a small personal robot which will follow us around saying things like "command does not compute, Master" in a mechanical but cute voice.
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 07 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Babba wrote:
You did a degree in AI & yet you believe that AI exists !


Yup i do, we use it all the time. It's not what people think it is though. People seem to think that AI is about creating software that thinks it's alive or thinks it's human, or acts like it's human. That stuff is retarded as if we need something that thinks it's human we can just use a human Laughing
Just like people think the ultimate goal of robotics is an android. It's not at all, androids are retarded. We need robots to do what we can't do, not mimic what we can already do.

AI is a branch of statistics often taking influence from biologically inspired computing. It doesn't seek to replicate or replace biology. AI is in reality what most people think about when you ask them to explain an algorithm: "Oh it kind of looks at the information and then sort of decides what's best or what you want..." <-- AI.

I've never heard of the tossed hand grenade scenario, but i assume it's along the lines of causing self hard by jumping on it to protect others? Surely that's one of Asimovs laws of robotics? AI is no where near that level and is currently concerned with pattern recognition and such. Like handwriting recognition, image processing, and other forms of data classification. Neural Networks have massive potential, but are unlikely to live up to it without some revolution in understanding.

Interesting fact: The guy who wrote one of our core course text books on AI is now head of development at Google! Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:54 - 07 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just think we're heading for a great divide, most countries in the world will include 3rd world type areas within 30 years, and that will lead to the same way African countries are run now with the poor left out in the cold, with no proper housing and extremely poor, and the rich in their ivory towers holding all the low-availability commodities.
Billions of poorest people will die, and the richest will just get further and further away, there won't be many people in the middle ground as you'll quickly either survive or fall.
Eventually the richest will sort out the power issue, whether it be fusion or proper renewables, this will mean the likely rarest commodity of fresh water can be made from desalinating sea-water, and the divide can start to be closed. Population will probably be down to 2 or 3 billion by then and we can start again.

So that's the next 100 years, after that the technology progress will again be extremely rapid, and we'll be off the planet with energy to matter conversion available and some clever propulsion systems. Possibly onto Mars but more likely onto huge space stations, maybe following scouts to distant stars, jumping from star system to star system recharging at each stop.
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PostPosted: 23:30 - 07 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

CHR15 wrote:
Then imagine the second half of the film wallie, but with more gang rape and murders.


Genuinely made my day, ah the joys of being at sea. Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:37 - 07 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not much will change. People will continue to be annoying, music will just get worse, film ideas will be replicated, fashion will go in circles, and technology will continue to help you in wasting time.
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PostPosted: 23:41 - 07 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Babba wrote:
You did a degree in AI & yet you believe that AI exists !

Artificial Intelligence and manufactured sentience are separate things.

An ant is intelligent - I wouldn't call it sentient, though.

Conversely, people are sentient*, but I wouldn't refer to many of them as intelligent.

*According to current definitions, at least.
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PostPosted: 23:58 - 07 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right now, I'd say the internet is helping to equalise people's living conditions.

Already a lot of people in BRIC(S) countries are expecting a much better standard of living, which they're achieving partly thanks to global communication allowing them to undercut "the west".

The easier communication becomes, the more wealth will be spread out in many ways.

But also the more resources the world will consume as more people expect more.
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PostPosted: 00:51 - 08 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Considering how far we have come in 20 years, it's totally mind boggling to even contemplate how far we will have gone in the next 20 years if we don't wipe each other out in nuclear war or something.

For anyone interested, I watched a BBC documentary on A.I. the other night.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01fmbvb/Horizon_The_Hunt_for_AI/
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PostPosted: 01:26 - 08 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's some fucking jackanory fantasy land idiots in this thread.

All that's improved in the last thirty years is computer processing speed, graphics, and the internet.

Hover cars haven't arrived (and don't mention the Moller Skycar because Clive Cussler was featuring that in his novels twelve years ago); the leisure age hasn't arrived; neither have androids, outer space travel, and cures for diseases.

People still have furniture made of wood, drive vehicles with bodies made from a material in use two thousand years ago, powered by aeons-old compressed flora and fauna.

Pop music (especially dance music) has regressed to an undanceable mixed-race abomination. Enlightenment of the populace is anathema to its rulers. Need I go on.

Will somebody please tell me where any really new technology is coming from, because the last truly groundbreaking discovery was done by Robert Oppenheimer's team in 1945.
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PostPosted: 01:33 - 08 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

keggyhander wrote:


All that's improved in the last thirty years is computer processing speed, graphics, and the internet.



I regard the internet as one of the biggest inventions of our generation. If you don't think we've improved vastly in the past 30 years then you're still living in 1982.

The comparisons about driving cars made from age old materials powered by even older fuels is like saying we haven't come very far since building pyramids from stone.

https://www.wimp.com/predictsinternet/ Arthur C Clarke was bob on.
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PostPosted: 08:06 - 08 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't really matter how far your technology has evolved in the last 30 or 100 years, since the general populace haven't evolved one iota. If anything they've devolved and the great mass are more stupid and uneducated than ever and still controlled by the same base desires that would be familiar to the Pharaohs of Egypt or Emperors of Rome.

They may have the internet and fantastic hand held information and communication devices that make Star Trek look laughable, but what great noble purpose are they used for? Sending photos or their arse or dick to each other, videos of someone falling over and searching for a video of that icon of modern intellect and cultural achievement, some fake chick off X Factor sucking her boyfriend's dick. Way to go human race, you're really reaching for the stars.

This enlightened modern populace, that bar a small number of technocrats that each hold a small piece to the puzzle, hasn't the vaguest clue how all these devices work and are seemingly utterly dependent upon them and completely lost without them.

All it would take is some large solar storm, akin to the Carrington event of 1859, frying the majority of those nm silicon devices and the great modern civilization would come crashing down. You can then experience that zombie attack you've dreamed off since you'll be surrounded by them.
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PostPosted: 08:28 - 08 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 08:57 - 08 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Right now, I'd say the internet is helping to equalise people's living conditions.

Already a lot of people in BRIC(S) countries are expecting a much better standard of living, which they're achieving partly thanks to global communication allowing them to undercut "the west".

The easier communication becomes, the more wealth will be spread out in many ways.

The easier communication becomes, the easier it is for the super rich to exploit the countries where incomes are lower to their advantage. I don't see that as improving things overall, I see it more as a race to the bottom for everyone else.
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