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PostPosted: 20:18 - 10 Apr 2012    Post subject: Have you ever seen this done? Reply with quote

Like stated in various threads, I am planning on getting a CBR125.
Have you ever seen a CBR125 streetfightered? After looking more and more at naked and streetfighter bikes I've began to really like them plus the CBR I've been looking at has some damage to the fairings making it cheaper than most Smile
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 10 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

google it, I highly doubt you'll come away disappointed Laughing

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PostPosted: 20:25 - 10 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup... gimme 2 seconds

https://i55.tinypic.com/qn4cx4.jpg


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PostPosted: 20:27 - 10 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Won't look great.. why not keep the bars and whack a single headlight upfront? Would look nicer as a cafe.
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PostPosted: 20:30 - 10 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eddie Hitler wrote:
Won't look great.. why not keep the bars and whack a single headlight upfront? Would look nicer as a cafe.


I was planning on keeping the bars, What about removing the fairings still, the typical smaller Exhaust and such. I also think it has a pillion seat. can you get CBR125 seat cowl. Also I was planning on other things maybe some braided brake lines and such, smaller mirrors, smalled clutch/brake levers. Tell me what you think
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 10 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simple the better, the mods you listed sound tasteful. Don't get any colourful bolt shit and it will look nice. Form follows function.
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 10 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eddie Hitler wrote:
Simple the better, the mods you listed sound tasteful. Don't get any colourful bolt shit and it will look nice. Form follows function.


I was planning on keeping it black, I kinda have this "black mysterious look" All black bike, All black leathers,Black visor... what can I say. It's what I always imagined as a child
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PostPosted: 20:44 - 10 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

trippz wrote:

I was planning on keeping it black, I kinda have this "black mysterious look" All black bike, All black leathers,Black visor... what can I say. It's what I always imagined as a child


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/lN2pH5TrEA8/0.jpg

Booaaaa.... buuuuaa.. Wink

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PostPosted: 20:45 - 10 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

my friends doing a rs 125 one, every things been air brushed, ill get some photos tonight.
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PostPosted: 00:08 - 11 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The whole idea is illogical.
Take one 'sporty' faired Learner-Legal, that is more expensive to insure than the 'street' version (CBF)... take away the ONE thing that defines it as the 'sporty' version, the fairings in a mod, that will make it more expensive to insure and make it look, like you have crashed it and cant be bothered to fix it properly Shocked

Just makes NO sense....

It would, in short, look like Paddy's unashamed Frankenbike.

That is NOT a 'street-fighter'... OK, maybe it is.... its the one that LOST the fight with the street!
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PostPosted: 01:59 - 11 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol why not just buy a CG.
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PostPosted: 03:27 - 11 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
The whole idea is illogical.



i stopped reading there mike Neutral

NOTHING about a streetfighter is logical you build them because you love the look of them.

You build them because you dont want to look like every other twit on their plastic weekend toy.

as far as the CG / YBR comments go if your trying to make a decent 125 fighter the cbr 125 is a much more attractive frame

https://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad11/kabusitan/streetfighter125r2.jpg

that seat / sub-frame already looks good and by the look it would be piss easy to customize for other seat units .

i will warn you once you start modding you cant stop Very Happy

atm mines a mad max style rat fighter. my bike has had so many things changed on it so many times half my mates often ask me if i have changed bike .but nope same one Very Happy and its about to get a full redesign including new handmade pannels belly pan and subframe mods for a new seat unit .

this said thus far i have spent less than £100 and have a bike that always has a group around it at meets for the sole reason its something one of a kind

If you can afford to insure it and you SURE its what you want to do go for it Smile the possibility's are only limited by your imagination and your wallet
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PostPosted: 05:19 - 11 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the street fighters I've seen on here look pretty good. Some of the projects are awesome looking. But just don't see the point on a 125 - doesn't seem very streetfighter-ish struggling up a hill doing 50 mph.
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 11 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

fireyphoenix1989 wrote:
NOTHING about a streetfighter is logical you build them because you love the look of them.

You build them because you dont want to look like every other twit on their plastic weekend toy.


Laughing Justify it how you like

But the cult of the "street-fighter" started twenty odd years ago when Norwich Union had a 95% market share of the UK Bike Insurance market; via the generic 'Rider' Policy that rated premiums merely by Rider Age; Post-Code; Bike Value and Engine Displacement; making a brand new Yamaha FZR1000 Exup 'cheaper' to insure as a BMW K1000; seeing a skew in the market in favour of sports-bikes, to the extent that the importers didn't bother even bringing the more mundane 'cooking' models to the UK, and the phenomenon, that being knocked off the side-stand could result in them being written off as a total loss...

This put a lot of very drool-worthy but skuffed up sports-bikes in the breakers....

The Cult of the street-fighter grew out of patching them up to make every-day riders, in a market where price of new bikes was getting extortionate.

Idea it was some kind of new custom 'Genre' and people set OUT to build bikes to look like that is pretty much bollox.

As for the idea they are 'Different'... ditto!

I was rather bemused fifteen years ago riding past Ginger Hall at the TT where the street-Fighter crew were holding court....

Row after row of identikit Gixxers, with polished frames and renthal flat-bars... only variation the colour of the anodising!

Also some-what Ironic that the Gixxer was THE bike to so catalyse the trend; after decades of lads taking humble, every-day practical 'Street-Bikes' as offered by the factories; stuff like the Meriden Triumph Bonaville; and then 'Customising' it to make it faster and more sporting, concluding with the 'Cafe-Racer'..... Suzuki produce a factory 'Cafe-Racer' ready made, out the crate... and WHAT do people do with it? Tear off the clip ons and fairings and try turning it into a street-bike!

Meanwhile; the 'identikit' catalogue custom is the periah of all genre's of custom bike; and very few show any real individuality, imagination of creative engineering.

But within the Cult of the Street-Fighter, the 'values' of the traditional custom builder are even more regularly ignored.

The 'ideal' of taking something essentially 'Scrap' and making a neat tidy, functional motorcycle from it; using craft skills and injuniuty over money, or using the money to create something with an incredibly high level of atension to detail, and asthetic merit.

And they remain all but for a very, VERY small number built by TRUE 'specials builders'.... what they have always been....

Crashed Sports-bikes, BOTCHED back to service, and pimped up with catalogie bits from the M&P brochure!

And to set out to do this to a 125, is even more of an anathma, especially right now.

125's have two 'basic' reasons for being.

1/ a Learner-Legal to get your tests done on
2/ Cheap commuter wheels for the seriously economy minded

If you have a 125 to get tests on... no point fuck-arsing about, investing money and emotional energy in the thing, when soon as its done its job, you are, as more likely as not, going to be frustrated by its dower performance and want something more inspiring your new licence allows.

At which point; making a bike less desirable and hence less valuable, to the wider market... wont really help you shift it on, to realise THAT ambition, will it?

If its just cheap wheels... then a 125 is subject to Learner-Loaded insurance to begin with, and a bigger bike could be cheaper to run; but if it has to be a 125... picking a more expensive one, rather defeats the objective.

Bottom line:

If you dont have a licence? With eight months left to get a useful licence on a tiddler; dont fuck about tryying to make a 'dream' Learner-Legal... JUST get the bludy tests done.

If you REALLY want a 'Custom' motorcycle.... then get a bit more cute and clued up about it. Be strategic and decide what you want the bike to do, what you want the bike to look like, and dont short change yourself.

Start with a clear vision, and THEN put everything you have into it, and do something TRULY 'different' paying attension to detail, and getting creative, demonstrating YOUR craft skills, and sense of asthetic, making 'stuff' rather than buying it, doing it well, and neatly, and making the 'whole' work, functionally, as well as asthetically.
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 11 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

fireyphoenix1989 wrote:
Teflon-Mike wrote:
The whole idea is illogical.



i stopped reading there mike Neutral

If you're going to disagree with someone at least have the decency to read the post you're disagreeing with. Neutral
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 11 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

fireyphoenix1989 wrote:

NOTHING about a streetfighter is logical you build them because you love the look of them.

Sadly so many do fall in the 'chopper' category of 'custom' - done purely for looks, regardless.

However, many streetfighters are also converted, believe it or not, to improve the bike for general 'street' use. Some wide bars to give quicker turning feel, fairings ripped off because they're already hanging off from a crash. Appropriate lights replaced.
Maybe the rear jacked up a bit to speed up the turning more. Downgeared a bit too to add a bit of 'pep'.
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 11 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
fireyphoenix1989 wrote:

NOTHING about a streetfighter is logical you build them because you love the look of them.

Sadly so many do fall in the 'chopper' category of 'custom' - done purely for looks, regardless.

However, many streetfighters are also converted, believe it or not, to improve the bike for general 'street' use. Some wide bars to give quicker turning feel, fairings ripped off because they're already hanging off from a crash. Appropriate lights replaced.
Maybe the rear jacked up a bit to speed up the turning more. Downgeared a bit too to add a bit of 'pep'.


This is the actual reasoning behind the original creation of a streetfighter.
Each component on the bike, however personal, should also do some sort of purpose (quote streetfighters mag), and also look good, not just a bling mobile that doesn't handle, doesn't anything, except look good. Which if you relate to a true streetfighter, it doesn't class as one

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PostPosted: 14:57 - 11 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it would just look stupid. I saw one for sale a while ago and it just looks like a crashed bike that the owner couldnt be arsed to get new fairings for.

I own a cbr125 and i dont see why anyone would want to remove the fairings. I took the front fairings off once to do some work, then when i stood back to look at it i just though how utter ugly it looked.

If you want to get a streetfighter get a ybr. They are much bigger and would actually look decent.
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 11 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ayrton wrote:
I think it would just look stupid. I saw one for sale a while ago and it just looks like a crashed bike that the owner couldnt be arsed to get new fairings for.

I own a cbr125 and i dont see why anyone would want to remove the fairings. I took the front fairings off once to do some work, then when i stood back to look at it i just though how utter ugly it looked.


Sometimes when your friend has a go and catapults it into a roundabout... then you can't afford to fix it Wink

Hence the image above Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 11 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The OP isnt asking if its the smart thing to do hes asking if it would look good . This is a decision of heart over head and its one i would personally make myself with out regard for the opinion of others as it you who has to ride it not me.


My opinion through is that yes it would look good if he approached it with a plan and genuinely worked at it he could make it in to a properly tidey little bike.
one of my mates built a 125 cc fighter from an RS 125 come sales time he got 1400 for it a lot more than he paid.
he got it for 900 with damage to left hand panels.
teenagers are strongly affected by attention deficit ohhhhh shiny Laughing im yet to see the lad that doesnt love a well polished frame too . Twisted Evil


G wrote:

However, many streetfighters are also converted, believe it or not, to improve the bike for general 'street' use. Some wide bars to give quicker turning feel, fairings ripped off because they're already hanging off from a crash. Appropriate lights replaced.
Maybe the rear jacked up a bit to speed up the turning more. Downgeared a bit too to add a bit of 'pep'.


yes i do fully believe it but i and many of the local streetfighter builders that i know regard those as standard modifications you do to any bike thats going to see town use its not just specific to street fighters.
most the people i know change the gearing and suspension set often swapping the rear shocks for better performing model and usually doing the dog-bones to jack it up while they are at it.

most my friend group ride blandits and SV 650s due to the fact we under 25 insurance wants to rape us on many bikes never mind the fact we see people in their 40s with next to no road experience rideing bikes we can afford buy but could never insure.

so we customize our bikes to suit our rideing style as we are in the position where we have to like what we are lumped with

the best builder in our area (blackpool) is call gaz he has around 10 highly detailed bikes each completely different themed and transformed in to good performing "custom" bikes to quote him
"custom does not come out of a catalog"


the streetfighter scene might well have started off as merely a way to put a damaged bike back in to service but the modern streetfighter is a very different beast to the ones of old days

this is what many think of when the term streetfighter is used
https://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr36/wend07_2009/suzuki%20bandit1200/01010062.jpg

this neither right not wrong but a bandit with a different headlight and fly screen is not a custom bike nor would those serious about streetfighters regard it as such


below is a decent example of a modern fighter . it has the usual suspension and engine mods but the rest are done purely to the owners personal tastes

https://img182.imageshack.us/img182/210/alien1gd2.jpg

it can be argued back and forth till the cats come home but the fact is that the modern street fighter scene is a very different animal to what it was when i was kid getting taken to big bike meets.

The availability modern CNC tech that is quite easy to get contracted to make custom parts means that the limits are truly just imagination and wallet .

sorry if i went off topic at times there i was just trying to best ex plain my position about the ops question.
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 11 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

here is what looks like a standard cbr125 thats streetfighterd
https://www.muamat.com/adpics/4bbc270a1b681ec6c83575373.jpg[url]

I think it just look stupid unless your willing to pay a lot to change parts of the bike like handlebars, exhause ect.

I actually love streetfighters. It just seems pointless to me to take a bike like a cbr and streetfighter, rather than a bike that would look much better afterwards.[/url]
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 11 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

lovin the little fins or whatever they are on that exhaust, tasty touch.

I'm all for it, bin the fairings, shed the weight Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 11 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't want to do this for "practicality" I want to do this because I like the look. I like my own taste and I'm willing to do some custom things. I especially like when people use masks as above for there Headlights. I also will MAYBE consider buying different handle bars. I don't quite know about raising the rear end... But changing the can out was a definite... I hate the stock can you get.
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 11 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well i say enjoy yourself.

I fightered a 929 fireblade a while back and loved it but alot of people on here couldnt understand the point of messing with a decent sportsbike, particularly as it was undamaged. I could explain why but whats the point, some people just dont get it. Do what you like and have fun learning in the process.

I saw a pretty funky cafe racer styled cbr125 at dream machines (poole quay) on Tuesday. Not my thing to own but it had me looking for a while as it was really unusual. Wish i'd taken a pic now so you could see it.
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PostPosted: 00:41 - 19 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can agree with most people who think a CBR 125 may be a little useless for the average riders, but that's all perspective. For highway driving, I'd agree wholeheartedly. But with a little bit of ingenuity, you can make it worth riding.

I originally intended on street fightering my CBR125, but I changed my mind. I've seen youtube videos from other countries, where 125cc bikes are much more common, with the CBR125 modded to have street fighter handlebars for sheer stunting, and no other real purpose. I wanted a little more than that, but they still look like great project, if you do them properly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImzRYPAxAQk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g6P2A1aBwQ (my favourite)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td_bT2Nby78

- Why did I keep my 125?
Because it's fun to ride, believe it or not. I enjoy feeling the bike rev up high and the ability to push the bike to it's limits without breaking any road laws. I also like being able to go flyyying into virtually any corner and drag my knee to the ground, without fear of dropping some 400 pound monster machine.

- What did I decide to do instead of street fightering?
Well, I grew up around dirt bikes, so I still wanted the straight handlebars, but I decided to go back to my childhood and turn it into a dual sport instead. I'm from Canada and I saw the XL125 Varadeo on the UK Honda website and was very interested in making my own style out of the CBR. It turned out more to be a mini adventure/touring bike though, but I was satisfied with my work. It's better in this respect, because the knobbie tires allow me to go places that no 600-1000RR could ever dream of, but it can still corner like a champ.

https://i49.tinypic.com/2d2hn3p.jpg

It's a light little machine too with lots of low-end power (if you swap out the front sprocket, it works a lot better). I also raised the front suspension a tad as well. The seating position is a thousand times more comfortable and allows me to do wheelies on the spot anywhere/anytime I want. I'm considering strapping a steering dampener on it though, because the bars are a little wobbly at high speeds, much more than the stock bars anyway. But overall, it works excellent.

***If you're curious to see some footage of how the bike handles going off-road, take a look at this video I made on my friend's GoPro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHE_7dydASc

https://i50.tinypic.com/35d86mw.jpg

My only future plans are to buy a Puig double bubble windscreen. If the stock windscreen wasn't useless before... then now it just looks out of place entirely.

https://i47.tinypic.com/ruaezr.jpg
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