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grant965
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PostPosted: 20:44 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: Buying a cat b bike, any worries? Reply with quote

Hi, might be getting a cat b bike to either break for parts or to swap frame out and put back on the road. Guy said frame and engine numbers have been removed by salvage company because it is cat b, I think I've heard that is standard so you can't reapply for logbook.
Am i right in thinking I can still use the engine? I don't need to provide an engine number with v5 so would've thought its fine.
Anything I should ask/check out? He said he has receipt from the salvage company to prove its his.
thanks, Grant
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 25 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tread carefully. It sounds very much like a cover-story for selling a nicked bike.
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PostPosted: 13:00 - 25 Apr 2012    Post subject: Re: Buying a cat b bike, any worries? Reply with quote

grant965 wrote:
Guy said frame and engine numbers have been removed by salvage company because it is cat b, He said he has receipt from the salvage company to prove its his.

When a vehicle is declared category B, the insurance company involved insist that the vehicle is destroyed by licenced breakers. In practice this does not always happen and those vehicles are often sold on with their VIN mutilated.
Unless the breakers were complete numpties then there is no way that they would issue a receipt for such a transaction.
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 25 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If i get it im going to break it for parts, are there any problems with me doing that? I assume the police aren't going to come knocking if it is stolen because its ID has been removed?
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PostPosted: 13:22 - 25 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

grant965 wrote:
I assume the police aren't going to come knocking if it is stolen because its ID has been removed?

You know what they say about assuming things.........
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 25 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

so what does that actually mean to me. The frame will definitely be scrapped. Everything else is broken for bits, its not unusual for engine number to be blank on v5 so I shouldn't really have a problem?
Should I ask for a copy of the receipt? I could contact the salvage company and ask them if its like a proper full receipt
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 25 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

My old SV was written off on a cat B, never touched the engine or frame numbers, I bought the bike back but both sets of numbers were untouched, as was the rest of the bike.
I've never heard of them removing the numbers, if the bikes a cat B write off, that means structual damage, so the engine could be perfectly fine (like mine) so there's no reason why they'd remove the engine number and stop it going on the road.
As for the frame, the number can be removed, which is illegal of course, but the number's illegal in the first place. Its illegal whether the number's there or not, so there'd really be no point in removing it, so either way, its fooked.

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PostPosted: 14:37 - 25 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

not particularly interested in the frame or engine, just want to know that if it is stolen. Im not going to get fucked over for selling fairings and ecu etc ?
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 25 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

grant965 wrote:
not particularly interested in the frame or engine, just want to know that if it is stolen. Im not going to get fucked over for selling fairings and ecu etc ?


im just pointing that out that even if it is a cat B, it seems a bit fishy, I'll agree with Pete.
My dads mate had a bike for years until the police came knocking...

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PostPosted: 14:44 - 25 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep you will if caught they will take all your parts including your legal parts
if they suspect you of ringing they may even take your own legal cars and bikes

by buying a bike you suspect is stolen your incoraging bike theft !
plain n simple
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PostPosted: 16:15 - 25 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

grant965 wrote:
not particularly interested in the frame or engine, just want to know that if it is stolen. Im not going to get fucked over for selling fairings and ecu etc ?


Course you will. You might be able to use the defence that you bought the bike in good faith so may not be criminally liable, but the people you've sold the bits to (you kept records, right? If you didn't, the 'good faith' argument starts to get shaky) will lose them, and you'll find yourself reimbursing them.

tl;dr Breaking a stolen bike does not make the parts non-stolen.
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