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PostPosted: 11:24 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: When music was music. Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 11:28 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 11:33 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed.
I was watching Annie Lennox and Bowie in front of thousands of people at Wembley, performing Under Pressure and imagine kids look back at them then and think, they’re not as ‘wacky’ as lady gaga for example. They’ve got no idea, it wasn’t just for the look, it was 100% them and what they were. Pure music form.
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PostPosted: 11:35 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bowie, Iggy and Lou are Gods in my eyes. Even the crap stuff by their standards is better than we have now, Eno should also be put into the mix too.


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PostPosted: 11:53 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

My heroes as a nipper;

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...it was a match made in heaven really....I had a premonition ....I used to wear the exact same clothes as Angus when I was 5 without even knowing it.....spooky Shocked


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PostPosted: 11:55 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 11:56 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was listening to Rock & Roll Animal and Funhouse in the car only yesterday...

The only band nowadays that does it for me is the Black Keys.
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PostPosted: 11:56 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh and lol @ TheSmiler
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PostPosted: 13:01 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

killa wrote:
Indeed.
I was watching Annie Lennox and Bowie in front of thousands of people at Wembley, performing Under Pressure and imagine kids look back at them then and think, they’re not as ‘wacky’ as lady gaga for example. They’ve got no idea, it wasn’t just for the look, it was 100% them and what they were. Pure music form.


I was there too. Great day.
Me and my brother went up to the stage to see the drum kits etc and found a big arse camera looking straight at us.
Years later when the Freddie concert was released, there we were on the documentary disc at the end! Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry qb78, i meant, watching it on Youtube to relive what i saw as a kid on TV.
You were lucky to see something like that Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:11 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

killa wrote:
I was watching Annie Lennox and Bowie in front of thousands of people at Wembley, performing Under Pressure and imagine kids look back at them then and think, they’re not as ‘wacky’ as lady gaga for example. They’ve got no idea, it wasn’t just for the look, it was 100% them and what they were. Pure music form.


There's always an element of look and fashion to music. It makes you stand out from the usually bland (but sometimes equally talented) crowd. It gets you a following, inspired by your cool look, and makes you marketable by a label. It's never 100% them, especially with major label involvement.

The only artist who I can say his look was 95% him and not purely a fashion is GG Allin. He was a fuck up train wreck junkie. Even then there was an element of the act. Back when he was touring with the Scumfucs/Murder Junkies/Texas Nazis/whatever incarnation of garage rock n roll band, he was doing a show where he did the usual, shit, piss on stage, hurl it at the audience, assault the audience and supposedly try and chase/rape/molest some girl in the crowd, and whoever was the promoter (I think it was Nick Zedd) shook his head, because GG had gone too far, so he backed down and continued the cutting himself, self abuse, whatever part of the show, because that's all it is, a show, even when you're the most outrageous enfant terrible in the underground hardcore punk scene.

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Although maybe he was outdone in the truly genuine stakes by this crew of reprobates, who really were thick, working class East End hooligans who supported West Ham, and whose bassist organised battles with rival firms in the ICF. Bad taste in Harrington jackets tho and ended up sounding like UFO. Up the 'ammers

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PostPosted: 15:30 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThoughtControl wrote:
There's always an element of look and fashion to music. It makes you stand out from the usually bland (but sometimes equally talented) crowd. It gets you a following, inspired by your cool look, and makes you marketable by a label. It's never 100% them, especially with major label involvement.


Yeah i agree, the thing is with the new age like Lady Gaga is that is defiantly, just for the ‘cooky’ look. It’s not really ‘her’.
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PostPosted: 15:38 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think you understand Lady Gaga then.

Out of all the artists out there with identikit styles, an honoury track with David Guetta, with the same songwriters as 75% of other artists Lady Gaga is actually very individual.

I've watched quite a few documentaries about her and actually i'm watching her show at Madison Square Gardens right now and she is just an amazing performer. She writes a lot of her own material, she designs a lot of her outfits, she always sings live and has a cracking voice to boot.

It's probably not cool for a man in his early twenties who is straight and quite grumpy to like her music, but I have both of her albums and despite the fact I despised her when she first came onto the scene and a lot of her earlier released material was very mainstream, her albums have some great work in them.

She is very crazy and really pushes some boundaries, but she is to the 2010's what Madonna was to the 1980/90's. Postmodern.

Hopefully unlike Madonna she will know when to call it a day.
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got standing tickets for Faith No More at Brixton on July 10th a couple of hours ago Mr. Green

Missed out on the Apollo one's that went on sale this morning due to mithering for 5 minutes as they only had standing tickets left at the back of the balcony which apparently has an awful view. I then thought I'd go anyway, and they too had sold by then.

Last saw them at Brixton in 1997, and the face value of the ticket was £12.00. This one's three times as much Shocked

They still appear to have some tickets left for that one too if anyone was interested...
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Iggy was doing all that way back in the late '60s to mid 2000.
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mick/Stones are ok ish
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PostPosted: 20:38 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
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Iggy was doing all that way back in the late '60s to mid 2000.



I missed the shows where Mr Pop takes a shit on stage and smears himself in it and then throws it at the crowd. You got any pics? I do believe Mr Pop is still with us, and the wild man of rock n roll does adverts for insurance.

GG died of an OD in 1993, when his brother Merle immediately started cashing in on all the limited pressing rarities etc that suddenly became worth a bundle. He didn't live long enough to do any adverts for toilet paper or adult diapers, which I'm sure would have been most amusing and he'd have made all his own.
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 24 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the tendency is to look back with a certain amount of rosy tints in your glasses. Sure a lot of good music came out of previous decades (60s, 70s etc), but equally a hell of a lot of shit got churned out too - the difference being that in time the dross fades away and the cream floats to the top.

Maybe in 30 years time we'll be looking back with our rose tints on and thinking 'yeah, that ga-ga was awesome, the stuff in the charts nowadays is just crap'.

Equally, I recall a conversation I had with a mate's Dad sometime in the early 90's: we were talking music, and I was telling him how good I thought Bowie (in his Ziggy Stardust phase) was.
He remarked that back in those days he viewed Bowie in the same light as we (then) would view someone like Jason Donovan - essentially churning out low-rate pop drivel for the delight of teeny-bop girls.

Seems it's all just a matter of perspective.
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PostPosted: 08:39 - 25 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

JonB wrote:
I don't think you understand Lady Gaga then.


I know she can sing, i've seen her with no makeup singing on a piano...sounded very much like Annie Lennox who i really admire, she has talent.
It's a shame that she isn't that raw all the time and dresses like a sap, singing really annoying pop music.
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PostPosted: 09:06 - 25 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh and lol @ TheSmiler
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I've realized who one of them is David bowie I think he was in a frightening movie, that someone I know had to keep rewinding to listen to a song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViftZTfRSt8

The others confuse me but ill let you enjoy it ya old fogie Razz
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PostPosted: 11:35 - 25 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

JonB wrote:
I don't think you understand Lady Gaga then.

Out of all the artists out there with identikit styles, an honoury track with David Guetta, with the same songwriters as 75% of other artists Lady Gaga is actually very individual.

I've watched quite a few documentaries about her and actually i'm watching her show at Madison Square Gardens right now and she is just an amazing performer. She writes a lot of her own material, she designs a lot of her outfits, she always sings live and has a cracking voice to boot.

It's probably not cool for a man in his early twenties who is straight and quite grumpy to like her music, but I have both of her albums and despite the fact I despised her when she first came onto the scene and a lot of her earlier released material was very mainstream, her albums have some great work in them.

She is very crazy and really pushes some boundaries, but she is to the 2010's what Madonna was to the 1980/90's. Postmodern.

Hopefully unlike Madonna she will know when to call it a day.


But it's just fake crap for marketing, it's not like she walks around in meat dresses at home Laughing
She's smart, don't get me wrong, the whole "lady gaga has a dick" was the thing that drove her to popularity and she spoke openly about the rumours Wink

I preferred her as Stefani, but I dont think she would have made it on her piano/singing talent
She's not fit, why do people say this, she looks like a womble

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Her music pisses me off anyway.
"Influenced by David Bowie, Michael Jackson, Madonna and Queen, Lady Gaga is recognized for her flamboyant, diverse and outré contributions to the music industry through her fashion, performances and music videos."

Also that redone producer guy seems to make all the shit songs, same with that burke, whats her name, alexandra? Yeah bet you all forgot about her Wink

As 2007 came to a close, her former management company introduced her to songwriter and producer RedOne, whom they also managed.[44] The first song she produced with RedOne was "Boys Boys Boys", a mash-up inspired by Mötley Crüe's "Girls, Girls, Girls" and AC/DC's "T.N.T.".[30][44] Gaga continued her collaboration with RedOne in the recording studio for a week on her debut album and also joined the roster of Cherrytree Records, an Interscope imprint established by producer and songwriter Martin Kierszenbaum, after co-writing four songs with Kierszenbaum including the singles "Christmas Tree" and "Eh, Eh (Nothing Else I Can Say)".[41] Despite her secure record deal, she admitted that there was fear about her being too "racy", "dance-orientated" and "underground" for the mainstream market. Her response: "My name is Lady Gaga, I've been on the music scene for years, and I'm telling you, this is what's next.
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 25 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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CaNsA wrote:
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I've realized who one of them is David bowie I think he was in a frightening movie, that someone I know had to keep rewinding to listen to a song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViftZTfRSt8

The others confuse me but ill let you enjoy it ya old fogie Razz

David Bowie (off of that "scary" film Labyrinth), Iggy Pop (off of the insurance adverts & Iggy and the Stooges) and Lou Reed (off of the Velvet Underground and writer of Perfect Day which all those celebs covered a few years back feeling like they were being a bit norty because it's really about drugs).

I challenge anyone to try to tell me that Life on Mars isn't one of the finest songs ever written.
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 25 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cant stand Iggy, Bowie or even the Rolling Stones.
For me, these guys the real deal. At least until Axl Rose's inflated ego ruined everything.
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Cant stand Iggy, Bowie or even the Rolling Stones.
For me, these guys the real deal. At least until Axl Rose's inflated ego ruined everything.
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Bowie shagged Slash's mother, so the rumours go.
GnR are ok to a point with some of their music standing the test of time, but they are a one trick poney, where Bowie and Iggy have spread their wings far and wide and are seen as Artists, nut just musicians.
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