Market Research?

[Babba]

As this place is famous for it's 'youth' contributers . . .

If you were allowed to drive your own car on the road at 16, how much would you (or Daddy) be prepared to £pay for one?

By car, I mean a fully enclosed, weathertight, 2 seat, 2 door, 4 wheeled contraption not far off a Smart. Less performance than an asthmatics sneeze (obviously), but practical non the less.

*IMPORTANT* Try to imagine that a 2nd hand market does not yet exist, you have just turned 16 & this is the first opportunity any 16yr old has ever had to legally drive a practical 4 wheeler on the road.

[DrDonnyBrago]

Not enough to buy one of these if that is what you are getting at:


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[AndyRoberts]

I'm 18. (just to note)

Well I only just got a job after turning 16, and after 2 years of working part time, I still wouldn't be able to afford a car. My parents earn enough for us to live comfortably with a few delicacies, but nothing special. Meaning I have to pay for everything to do with vehicles, insurance and all that. Now somehow I don't think I see myself being able to afford one of them at 16, unless Daddy somehow comes into a lot of money.

Hope that helps...

[TheSmiler]

There is only one car that I would personally recommend that is new my friend has one and they have amazing fuel economy, keeps up with traffic easy enough. Good on the spacial side of things as well, however wouldn't purchase one brand new (he did cash in hand at 18).

Toyota Aygo @£8535

https://www.toyota.co.uk/bv/CC2/AYGO/images/exterior/3Door/Aygo/chillired/01.jpg
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[Babba]

[blurredman]

https://www.careos.com/pics/BiblioPHO/net/marbella_1982.jpg

SEAT Marbella

Cost £3,000 new in 1987.


Depending on what version you went for:


843cc 4 Speed gearbox = 35hp and 78mph
903cc 5 speed gearbox = 40hp and 81mph. And a hell of a quieter ride on the motorways I bet.. I wished for a 5 speed just so I could hear myself think..
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[The Artist]

It must be possible to produce a crappy cheap slow 2 seater for under £4k retail.

Not sure how many people would spend even that when they could wait a year, spend £1k on a decentish 5 door.

[blurredman]

[TheSmiler]

[Babba]

I'll give you a clue shall I (as we seem to have failed abysmally so far).

There is a buzz, maybe a buzz from an expensive PR Co' but a buzz nonetheless.

A practical, 2 door, 2 seater car with 'Smart' type style & 'Smart' type levels of equipment, is going to hit the market before todays 16yr olds have grown up enough to chuck their muck up Kylie &
Cheryl's muck chute.

Sadly, (chuckles to himself) it will have a pathetic level of performance.

How much is a 16yr old ( or Daddy) likely to spend on one?

P.S. If you, or Daddy, struggled to pay £450 over 8yrs & 29.9% finance then you might want to sit this one out

[blurredman]

You talking leccy??

Fuck that, I wouldn't take anything less than free to be given an electric motor car.
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[bikertomm]

A: £1500 - £2000.

And even that you would have to be doing ok to get at 16.

Unless mummy & daddy help
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[Quornholio]

I'm pretty sure certain 16 year olds can drive over here also, disability crew?

[J.M.]

Nothing. My arse couldn't take that much of a rogering from the insurance companies.

I was getting quotes of over £6000 at 17 for a 850cc car that could barely exceed 80mph.
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[Derivative]

Isn't this just going to depend vastly on how well off (and irrational) said 16 year old is?

Your market is basically limited to 16 year olds with bloody well off parents, how the hell else would they buy one? Paper round?

It's like asking - how much would a homeless person pay for a hostel room. Well, I'm sure they'd pay £1000 if they had it, but they don't.

Seems like a stupid question to be asking IMO.

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[TheSmiler]

[Quornholio]

[Teflon-Mike]

1/ WHAT has this got to do with Bikes?
2/ How many Chav 16 year-olds on council clearing estates are running around on brand new Peugot Speed-Fighters? Becouse £2000 doesn't seem THAT expensive, compared to the 'parenting placebo's the kids get every year by way of the latest games console, sterio sytstem, high end mountain bike, and £70 trainers so that THIER kids dont get snubbed in the play-ground?
3/ WHAT has this got to do with BIKES?
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[Quornholio]

It's a discussion on how to stop the web toed inbreds who ride brand new Speedshite's, getting a Speedshite.

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[Babba]

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