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Spudly
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 29 Apr 2012    Post subject: CBT (passed!) and a new (second hand) bike. Reply with quote

Hi all.

I've spent the time since my last post waiting for my provisional licence to arrive, which it finally did on Friday.

Not wanting to let any grass grow under my feet, I went into Newcastle (oh aye, the toon) to sit on a couple of bikes and get a helmet, gloves and a pair of boots.

Accordingly, I had a sit on a Suzuki GZ125 and a YBR125 and I gotta say, I was pleasantly surprised by both of them.

I was going to have a sit on a TW125 as well, but as i was picking it up off the stand, it and its neighbouring bike bit me.

Turns out the neighbouring bike had previously lost a wing mirror and had a screw placed in just the right place to gouge y middle finger between it and the grip when I lifted it.

I can't remember bleeding that much before, dripping blood all over Westgate Hill, the guys in The Trading Post (who were awesome, made me and my 6 year old both welcome and comfortable) found some napkins to mop it all up and try to stop the bleeding before selling me a Box BX1 helmet and a pair of gloves for £65.

Really, if you are in the toon for some reason, drop into The Trading Post, the guys in there are dead friendly and encouraging. Before I left, they made me have a sit on an Yamaha 1100 Dragstar, which I fell pretty completely in love with.

Making a short story long here, but helmet, gloves and sone sturdy safety boots set me back £100 of your english pounds.

Now have CBT tomorrow and on Tuesday, I can go pick up the shiny second hand 2006 Suzuki GZ125 from Darlington - found it on eBay, 6500 miles on the click, £1100. Not a bad deal for both buyer and seller I think.

Now, to ensure I don't fuck up the CBT.


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PostPosted: 06:34 - 30 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice one mate, sounds like your well on your way. Good luck with your cbt and let us all know how you get on.
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 30 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys!

All passed and without incident, happily.

That said though, I have a lot of things to work on - biggest things are my slow riding and my clutch control.

I think my major problem is that I spent ten years driving cars for a living and I'm still mentally doing that. Time to break myself from those habits I reckon.

Gotta pick my GZ125 up tomorrow, looking forward to that!

I'm giving myself 3 months tooling around on my CBT, then I'll book my Mod 1 and bang on from there.
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 30 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

good luck just enjoy it fuck any nerves and you will be fine Wink
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 01 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slow riding and clutch control are amongst the hardest skills to master, below about 5mph the laws of physics that keep a bike upright suddenly decide they can't be arsed with helping you.
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 03 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_Pagin wrote:
Slow riding and clutch control are amongst the hardest skills to master, below about 5mph the laws of physics that keep a bike upright suddenly decide they can't be arsed with helping you.


Absolutely.

The CBT itself was fine, but that 43 mile journey from Darlington to Corbridge the day after was an educational experience all on its own.

For some reason I keep occasionally treating the gear pedal as if it was the clutch pedal in a car, which is particularly startling when you are trying to go from 2nd to 3rd and instead wind up in first.

I think the next few Sunday afternoons are going to be spent doing some slow riding practice in a quiet car park somewhere until I really have a grip on this clutch and gear changing in general.
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 03 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

awrowe wrote:
For some reason I keep occasionally treating the gear pedal as if it was the clutch pedal in a car, which is particularly startling when you are trying to go from 2nd to 3rd and instead wind up in first.


Lol.

I did my CBT and rode around for a few months before starting driving lessons.
When I got in the car I tried to use the clutch as a gear lever Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 05 May 2012    Post subject: GZ 125 Reply with quote

Hi,

How are you getting on with the GZ125?

I;m due to take my CBT on Thursday and have been practicing on my GZ125, (private roads of course).

So far it is an experience, not been on a bike for years and it was on my 'bucket list' so have bitten the bullet.

Just getting used to the gears as have driven an auto car for years.

My slow control is getting better, just need to master the smooth stops and remembering to turn off the indicators!!!

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PostPosted: 18:38 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: Re: GZ 125 Reply with quote

alexknight2000 wrote:
Hi,

How are you getting on with the GZ125?

I;m due to take my CBT on Thursday and have been practicing on my GZ125, (private roads of course).

So far it is an experience, not been on a bike for years and it was on my 'bucket list' so have bitten the bullet.

Just getting used to the gears as have driven an auto car for years.

My slow control is getting better, just need to master the smooth stops and remembering to turn off the indicators!!!

Alex


Loving the bike a lot!

I don't really have anything to compare it to - except for the CG I did my CBT on, which felt very light to me.

Slow riding is hard, I'm finding. I have a feeling I'm falling in to bad habits, which will bite me on the bum when I go for mod 1. Essentially, I tend to spend less time bothering to control the clutch than I should. Instead, I seem to be just letting it go when I have the revs matched. I'll need to work on it I think.

The other thing I am finding is I seem to be using mostly engine braking and front brakes, not bothering with the rear brakes at all. Pretty sure this is a Bad Thing, but I'm equally sure it is because of the rather bizarrely placed rear brake pedal, which is several inches above and forward of the right footrest. I realise it's a cruiser style bike, but really, the pedal is so badly placed as to be almost unusable. You would need ball joints in your ankles to be able to cover it effectively for more than a second or two.

And lastly, the gear change pedal, which is set fairly high as well. I find it to be a little awkwardly placed, however I think that may be more to do with the fact I'm using doc martin style clodhoppers rather than proper motorcycle boots.

Not only that, but I'm such a bloody noob, I may well be completely wrong and will find all these things are there for perfectly good and sensible reasons and its just me having no clue what I'm doing.

I struck a bit of a mechanical issue last night on the way home, but I'll put a post in Workshop when I get a chance.

I'll tell you one thing though - after a week riding it around, I'm wondering how the hell I managed to get by on public transport for so long.
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: pedal adjustments Reply with quote

Hi,

Well done on passing your cbt.

You can adjust the gear and rear brake levers up or down to adjust to your style, not hard to do either.

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PostPosted: 20:29 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello awrowe,

must of missed your original post till now.

I'm in Sunderland and have a GZ125 too. I've had it for 4 months now and had it pretty much stripped at one point or another.

Any problems just give me a shout, by the map thingy on your profile your pretty close.

I like my wee GZ125 except when it's windy. If you plan to do your test, the first few times on a normal 500 will seem strange as hell Laughing
Completely agree about the back brake. To be honest it's pretty pants anyway so you aint missing much with it.
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex, cheers! I'll have a look at that changing those pedal angles, the bike is sadly off the road till the weekend, unless I work some sort of magic in the next couple of days.

Nick, Sunderland eh? I'm in Corbridge, near Hexham, bot that far off at all. Got the A68 heading north almost at the front door - I've had a lot of fun driving a car up and down there and I see a lot of bikers heading up there as well, I suspect it will be fun even on a slowpoke like our GZs. Any weekend you fancy a ride out somewhere in the northeast, give me a shout, if the bike is running, I'll likely be up for it, weather and wife permitting.

At the moment, I'm trying to puzzle out a problem I have with the bike. I was riding home last night when suddenly the damn thing started spluttering and farting till eventually it just stopped.

I only got the bike last week and it came with a nearly full tank, so I thought I would run it out, then fill it right up and try to gauge its economy.

Last night, it was starting to look like it was nearly empty, so my initial thoughts were that it was empty and that was the problem.

So, I switched to the reserve tank and tried it, but had no success. I could start it, but moving the throttle made the engine die.

Best I could figure, that made it either fuel or air. Too much if one or the other. I don't think it's air, because nothing has changed, so I think its fuel.

The bike had been sitting for 'a while' before I got it, so further thought (which I had a lot of time for standing on the side of the road with my 18 piece Aldi motorcycle toolkit) made me think that perhaps it was a load of crap at the bottom of the tank causing a blockage.

Sure enough, when I took the fuel pipe between the tank and the carb off the carb, a load of rusty red globules of stuff fell out of the carb and the drippage from the tank left a rusty red shade to the concrete after it dried away.

So, I think I need to do a couple of things. 1) drain the tank and clean all the crap out of it somehow, I know not how.

2) I need to pull the carb out and give it a damn good dose of looking at. That bit is the bit I have the least confidence with, but I have a feeling that is where the problem lies. I think there is some crap in the jet stopping it from revving.

Dunno though. I have a mate coming to help on the weekend, but I really want to understand what is hapoening rather than standing around like a spare dick at an orgy while he fixes it for me.

Meant to put this in Workshop, but I guess its a new biker thing as well.
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would definitely copy and paste the issue part above and post it in the workshop. You will get great advice and it's very "noob" friendly for the likes of us.

If it has been standing for a good while, then yep everything will need a good cleaning out. Fuel lines, tank, carb etc etc.
I have a haynes manual and have tomorrow spare if you want a hand poking around yourself??
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nick 50 wrote:
I would definitely copy and paste the issue part above and post it in the workshop. You will get great advice and it's very "noob" friendly for the likes of us.

If it has been standing for a good while, then yep everything will need a good cleaning out. Fuel lines, tank, carb etc etc.
I have a haynes manual and have tomorrow spare if you want a hand poking around yourself??


Very much appreciate the offer Nick, but I'm at work Monday to Friday these days, so have to check it out on the weekend.

I know there is a Haynes manual for up to 2005, have there been any changes since then? Is the 2005 version still valid?

I'll do the copy paste thing as soon as as I can, I'm on a tablet at the moment, text selection is a bloody pest.

Thanks again for the offer though!
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PostPosted: 22:54 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest the manual covers the GS, GN, DR 125's as well as the GZ. The GZ is probably the least covered by the manual too.
I have a 2006 model and it seems pretty much the same, well apart from the bleeding swing-arm bushes are the other way round which took me hours to realise Crying or Very sad

Let me know how you get on, though i'm sure once the gunk is all cleared out, it will be fine.
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PostPosted: 00:17 - 10 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done on the cbt mate oh and I'm not far from you either another Sunderland lad so just up the road.
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 10 May 2012    Post subject: Gunk, CBT and confidence Reply with quote

Hi,

Passed my CBT today so all good.

Your bike problems definitely point to crap in the fuel line.

Not sure if the GZ you have have has fuel injection though??

Cleaning the carb should not be that difficult, just use petrol and a rag with some WD40. (wd40 fixes a lot of things).

Then run it on some Shell ultimate along with a fuel additive, that will give it a clean put along with a good run when it starts.

Hoping to get a few miles under my belt and then go for Mod 1 and Mod 2.

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PostPosted: 21:01 - 10 May 2012    Post subject: Re: Gunk, CBT and confidence Reply with quote

alexknight2000 wrote:


Not sure if the GZ you have have has fuel injection though??



Nope, it's a carb model same as mine. But totally agree with your suggestions.
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 11 May 2012    Post subject: Re: Gunk, CBT and confidence Reply with quote

alexknight2000 wrote:
Hi,

Passed my CBT today so all good.

Your bike problems definitely point to crap in the fuel line.


Congratulations! Was a buzz when I did mine, I had a lot of fun.

I think fuel is the problem too - now just waiting for a break in the bloody clouds long enough that I can pull the tank and carb off to give them a good clean.

And yeah, mine is a 2006 model as well. Love it a lot, I have a feeling I'll do some long rides on it.
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 11 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great bike for longer rides for a 125. As long as the weather is nice, its comfy as an armchair.
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PostPosted: 18:54 - 11 May 2012    Post subject: need to do the miles Reply with quote

I have now racked up about 200 miles, and each journey gives me more confidence.

Just as well as there are a lot of numnuts out there just dieing to knock you off your bike Thumbs Down

Funny thing is, today on the way to taunton I could get 65mph, on the way back could only touch 55mph. No mechanical problem, just a head wind Laughing

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PostPosted: 18:26 - 13 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right the, managed to get my bike fixed today - a mate of mine who used to race 125s way back in the day came over and helped me pull the carb apart.

Quite an amazing amount of red shit came out of what I thought was the breather tube and when we had the carb in bits (and with my mate telling me what all the bits were) I tried to blow through the main jet and just about blew my eyeballs out it was that blocked.

Few minutes with some spray on carb cleaner and Bob's the bloke who married your auntie.

Gave the whole carb a damn good going over with the carb cleaner, tweaked nipples and wibbled flaps till everything looked the way it should and put it all back together.

Couple of things I learnt.

The airbox seems to be designed not to come out of the frame. I suspect it will eventually, but it'll be a proper bugger to get out.

When removing stuff from the bike, its a good idea to put stuff removed into an orderly, progressive pile. I'm fairly sure I have bolts where screws were and vice versa.

It's very satisfying to start a bike up and have it work properly again.

I took it for a little run around afterwards (as you do) and managed to smash out a new top speed of a mahoosive 52mph.

As my mate said, "you fat twat, it'd go faster if it was carrying less."
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 13 May 2012    Post subject: On the plus side. Reply with quote

Well the fatter you are the faster you will go down hills Very Happy

Glad you got the bike fixed, have fun.

When I get time I also intend to tweek a few nipples. Laughing

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PostPosted: 21:42 - 13 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

agreed about starting it up after repairs.

i had to remove my air filter box (also designed to go in but not out) and carb and when it fired up first time properly and idled happily at 1.5k i was very pleased with myself, even if i did forget it had fuel inside it and got covered in it! haha (no it didnt stop me sparking up a ciggy)
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