Nooby question (DAS related)

Flemy · Scooby Slapper Joined: 15 Dec 2011 Karma :

Ok guys, I know this may be a bit stupid but speaking to a few bikers that I know about it haven't cleared anything up so, I thought I'd ask on here as someone is bound to know.

I've looked into doing my DAS through a third party which includes few days training, bike hire and what not which will come to around £600 or if I have my own bike (over a certain power output) I can do it directly through the dvla for just over £120ish for both mods.

However, if I had my own bike how would I get to do my test on it, I don't get it, would I just be allowed to turn up and use it (after speaking to insurance company to let them know) or would someone have to get it there for me or what?

I understand that this is probably really stupid of me but I don't get how these training places can justify charging that much when it seems that I can just book it through the DVLA for so cheap...

Any help is greatly appreciated guys.. Flemy
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andy_uk · World Chat Champion Joined: 13 Aug 2011 Karma :

You'd need to either transport it there on a trailer or in a van. Or get someone with a full license (and suitably insured) to ride it there for you.

The training schools are charging for their time & insurance etc.
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Conon · Scooby Slapper Joined: 05 Apr 2011 Karma :

If you do it on your own, you'll either have to get your bike trailered to the test centre, or have a mate with a license ride it there for you.

As to the £600 DAS charge, I think its pretty reasonable. Dont forget, the riding school has to provide 2 bikes, an instructor, and all incidental expenses like petrol, insurance, road tax, servicing etc. out of that £600.

Flemy · Scooby Slapper Joined: 15 Dec 2011 Karma :

So am I right in understanding that if I do it through the DVLA on my own 'big bike' as long as I get it there without riding it that I'm able to use it as long as I insure it?

Would like to go for the cheaper option but is it just going to be false economy for me?

Karma

for the info though guys.
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Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

It's fine. Legally, your provisional entitlement is only valid for 125cc 11kW bikes, or larger bikes when wearing hi-vis and in radio contact with a DAS instructor in possession of his certificate, or when on test. You don't even have to wear hi-vis while on test, but I'd strongly suggest that you do anyway.

Getting insurance, and getting the bike there is the issue. Once it's there though, it's not the DSA's lookout. They don't even ask to see evidence of insurance, you just self-certify that you are insured.
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Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

There is a 3rd option. Pass on your own 125, get a 500+ bike, restrict or "restrict" it down to 25kW, then sit 'accelerated access' tests on it, restricting or "unrestricting" it back up to 35kW+ in the test centre car park.

It sounds like a bit of a hassle, but it'll still cost less than going via a training school, and you can do it at your own pace (up to next January, of course). It largely comes down to how many times you can be bothered dealing with the clipboard Nazis.
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Cunnington · Spanner Monkey Joined: 01 Jun 2011 Karma :

I would advocate the lesson / bike hire route. I found the test daunting enough without having to worry about my feet finding the pegs because the unfamiliar layout is different, or worrying about being able to keep my speed down because the throttle response is different, or worrying about the u-turn, because the bike weighs more and has a different centre of gravity etc etc.

I sat my test on one of the bike school bikes. The examiner asked which bike are you on - the blue one or the black one, and filled in the details accordingly. Not a biggy, but one less thing to worry about.
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Think how much of a bummer it would be if you had 1 week left of the 2 year restriction and the Dvla accidentally lose your license.

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