What's wrong with this cornering?

[tbourner]

OK so ignoring the highside, her riding in this vid just looks 'wrong' to me, but I don't know why.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvUxwHUfTbA

It's like she's hanging off the bike just so she can say she gets her knee down to the floor, but the bike isn't actually leaning that much - not countersteering enough for the corner? Her head stays very upright as well, so she's staying vertical with respect to the floor, and trying to force the bike to lean against her body?

Or am I wrong and she's doing it fine?


Maybe this shouldn't be in 'New Bikers', I'm a long way from this!
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[CaNsA]

Yeppers, Thats why she was spat off the bike @ 5:20

Getting her arse off the seat, but keeping her shoulders square and inline with the bars.

fail.

For a right corner,

She needs to proper hang off the bike, both arse cheeks.
Left shoulder should be either on the centre line of the bike or even further right.
Head should be peeking round the right side of the screen.

[Rogerborg]

5:20 onwards.

Buggered if I know, just looks like a typical tw4t off to me, Stacey Implants trying to ride on the road like it's a track and for all we can tell, hitting an undulation, dust or crud.

I'm sure someone will be able to explain it comprehensively, but I'd put the root cause down to "Reach exceeded grasp".
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[tbourner]

Yeah I'm not talking about the actual crash, that just seemed like too much throttle on the exit, along with some other wrong stuff. But in general her cornering up to the off seemed rubbish to me - but what do I know?
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[Taught2BCauti...]

I think the bike is a bit too big for her - her bodyweight doesn't have enough influence over the balance of the bike.

Also, she is using the public highway like its a race track, and not making allowances for oncoming traffic and surface conditions.
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[Ghost]

Not an expert, but when I'm cornering like that I drop my inside shoulder and bend my inside arm, which drops my head lower down and makes it a lot easier shifting all the weight lower and to the inside. She's doing the exact opposite, her inside arm looks really stiff on the bars and her shoulder is locked up high, looks really uncomfortable to be honest!

And I've not even got to the crash yet

[miss.metallica]

As soon as the music came on i didn't care if she was cornering right or not...

Also, shouldnt they have left her helmet on after she crashed?

[Bred2shred]

And not stood her up wth a fractured pelvis?
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[lihp]

May be my eyes but I saw a spark just before she was flung from the bike, maybe she ran out of ground. She was constantly running wide on the corners, so I think her throttle control was more to blame here than her body position.

If you look throughout there's many times shes's been chopping the throttle on and off through those corners

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

[miss.metallica]

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

[supZ]

omg that was awful riding.

i cringed even on the 1st corner she took once up to speed.. completely twisted, sticking her knee out yet virtually rolling her upper body away from the corner meaning not only would she be really uncomfortable doing it but the bike is having to lean WAY WAY more than it needs to.

accident waiting to happen and lone behold thats what happens. bad body position leading to overleaning, riding off the edge of the tyre and running out of grip, hence the slide and subsequent high side.

all solved if she just got her head down to the mirror the same side as her knee. her leg would turn out feeling natural, and she could lean into the corner with the bike nicely stood up offering plenty of available lean if needed.

back should be parallel with the bike not folded across it :S

hard lesson but i hope one she's now learnt
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[Rogerborg]

[Hokum]

All the driving on the wrong side of the road too never a good sign

At least she has two big airbags to take the impact...

Why shift about so much on a public road? I've got my exhaust sparking on a round-about on a ruddy 50cc scooter, and I didn't have to swing my arse into the air!

The point when her rear tyre starts to overtake her front you know she is coming off.
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[Matt B]

Another muppet rider - That term "all the gear no idea!" applies here.

Been watching Rossi/Lorenzo/Stoner and thought "Hey, I can do that"...

Her riding throughout is appaling. She is never set up for the turn, braking during the turn, wrong line, correcting during the turns, fighting the lean of the bike constantly.... And so on.

You can tell she also suffers from Target Fixation and spends too much time looking at the lines she is creeping towards and not at the vanising point. That's why she is constantly twitching and correcting.

The off is just forcing too much angle and too much right hand on standard road tyres. The back gave out under power.

People like Stoner ride all the time like that, almost like dirt tracking, hanging the rear end out, but they can handle it.
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[Pie-Roe]

Shes riding crossed up and jerking the bike around almost in the corner with braking while moving around.

If you watch the brake light, it nearly always flicks on as she moves to lean off. She doesn't take any sort of line and is always cutting the dirt or middle line.

And she's fugly.
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[Ribenapigeon]

Hahaa I think someone has been looking up pootube vids of hot girls on bikes

Seriously though. Ive seen quite a lot of American utube vids of people doing dumb stuff on bikes. Its a country with far more lax regulations around bikes. I once saw this guy on utube with a 250 Ninja doing 0-60 runs on his bike which he says he only bought a few months before and was his first bike. He then proceeds to tool about on this thing on local roads and not once does he or his mate do a lifesaver. Im waiting for his smash up video.

We might find all the training and tests we have to do in the UK a pain but it reduces this kind of "all the gear no idea cock-ups". I wold love to know what her medical bill is. Ive known of people being bankrupted in the US for less injuries than she sustained in that crash.

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[Ribenapigeon]

My point was..........................sigh :-/

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[daemonoid]

It always astounds me how low they get on corners where I'd almost be upright.

I'm not great, but I've scuffed the toes of my boots well enough and got the footpegs of all my bikes against the ground. I never feel like I've got down that low though and certainly not at what look like low speeds round gentle corners.
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