set of procedures for Mod 2 ?

[Ribenapigeon]

I watched a video of Mod 2 and the video at one point mentioned "patked car procedure". This way of looking at riding stuck in my head for some reason, rather than say using acronyms to remember steps to take. I'm now wanting to make up my own list of procedures that will cover the Mod 2. What would be a comprehensive list of such "procedures".

I don't need a run down of each procedure I will research that myself but a good list would be a great help to start me off.

Cheers

[Matt B]

[sidewinder]

hi is this what you mean

Pulling away from side of road
observations
junctions
roundabouts
hill starts
pulling away behind parked cars
road positions
independent riding
speed awareness
2/4 second rules
Test questions

sw

[Rogerborg]

Urgh. Just ride like you normally ride. If you pass, yay, you da man. If you don't pass, sort your riding out.

Worrying about your riding during the test is just going to make your second-guess yourself and screw up.
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[Nick 50]

[Ribenapigeon]

sorry "Parked".

Yup that looks like a pretty good list.

The idea of thinking of my riding in terms of procedures is exactly meant to stop me worrying about my riding, its about reducing the riding to a set of procedures that will satisfy an examiner.

Partly I got the idea after reading a thread by someone who mentioned how wehn they did their DAS a guy turned up with a big Yamaha Sport bike and just aced the test, turned out the guy was an RAF fighter pilot. Ive worked with military guys and they have a great system for learning. Everything is broken down into A-B-C procedures. They just switch of their minds and do what they are told. Bomb this village folow procedure B. Bomb this Taliban out door kazi follow procedure C etc. When I watched the vid of a Mod 2 ride when the parked car procedure was ticked off as just "Parked Car Procedure" it just worked for me. Hence my wanting to build a list.

[Rogerborg]

OK, that is quite sensible - sorry, I misinterpreted you.

If you like Systems, then you'll love Motorcycle Roadcraft - I'd suggest giving that a read.
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[Teflon-Mike]

You cannot 'Proceduralise' riding a motorbike!
Many try, but it don't work. It's NOT a procedural 'thing' it's an intuitive one. We do 'Ritualise' a lot of stuff though, and that's probably a better way of thinking, becouse when your on a bike, BASICALLY you're putting yourself in the lap of the gods!

If you read 'Road-Craft', Police Riders hand-book, which I seem to have lost... there was a wonderful preface in which it explained that while it provided an awful lot of very 'proceduralised' methodocolgies for variouse aspects of riding, these were NOT hard and fast rules, but GUIDE-LINES of 'Best-Practice' and no substitute for 'COMMON SENSE'

F'r'a Newb, we have 'Official Motorcycling' DSA guikde to CBT, Theory & Practical test, which could be sub-titled, "Road-Craft for Complete Beginners'.

Contains similar preface, I hasten to add, that the Motorcycling is an intuative practice, and procedures and methodologies are no substitute for common sense.... but common sense and some idea WHERE and WHEN to apply them can make them pretty useful.

There's also 'Motorcycle-Riding' which is DSA's follow up, and sits between and slightly over-lapping Official Motorcycling & Road-Craft.

If you AVE to go down this route of 'Boning Up' then I would reccomend getting hold of official M/Cing, and reading.

Covers all the 'things' you want to look at AND provides the actual 'Best-Practice' procedures your examiner will be looking for.

BUT, be warned; boning up, a week before test, trying to re-learn a 'new' way of riding so you can 'put on a performance' for the examiner?

They ent daft... and they know when they are being played to, and they will spot a 'Theatrical Ride'.

Risk is that they will pick up on a 'hesitancy' or lack of confidence, in your 'performance' riding, becouse it wont be well rehersed and 'natural', and they can percieve that as lack of confidence, and will look for stuff to fail you on, like not making progress, or other catch-alls....

Other risk, is they will see an 'un-natural' ride, and wonder what your 'natural' tendancies are; and if they think you are playing to the crowd JUST to get the licence so you can revert to being a hooligan soon as you have it, they'll look for catch-alls to mark you down again.

By all means, read the book. See what the 'official' line is on stuff, there is almost certainbly going to be a revelation or two in there, whether its machine handling or how to deal with double mini-rounds or something.....

But dont sweat it TOO much, and DO NOT, try and change your riding NOW so close to the wire.... SHOW the bloke HONESTLY how you get to and from, and let HIM decide, whether to give you ticket or not.

Bottom line is you don't get a score, you dont get a merits or distinctions, its pass or fail. And you BASICALLY just have to survive 40 minutes and not fall off, kill any-one, or make any-one swear at you! Do that you pass... dot matter how MUCH you pass by, all the same!

Only other thing that will fail you, apart from obiouse 'Oh Shit' moments, will be reptetative 'faults' in whats BASICALLY 'care and attension', doing your observations, which as a car driover means LOOKING OVER YOUR SHOULDER, not glancing in the mirrors, DISTINCT road possitioning, not slight drifts to one side or other in the lane, CANCELLING YOUR INDIES..... bikes dont have self cancell, remember, THAT kind of thing....

So JUST ride it 'straight', like you would going to work, and unless you have some real 'problem', no reason you shouldn't pass.
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[Ribenapigeon]

I agree that you cant reduce "riding" a bike to a set of procedures but the test is a procedure and the examiner is going to be looking for how you deal with a certain set of set situations. Seeing the "procedure" as it was described in the utube vid I watched has already improved my aproach to passing a line of parked cars. I just wanted to extend that to other aspects of my riding.

I have the roadcraft book and its very good and I like the system but it uses a lot of acronyms to remember sequences of actions which for me does not work well, my brain just does not remember acronyms. I hate it when I have to go for training for work and some trainer stars writing up acronyms as a memory aid.

Im a long way off my test and at the moment I want to get my riding more intuative and instinctive but to do that Im wanting to custom build if you like, the best personal system for me so when the day comes I can do the test and ride natuarally no longer having to think in A-B-C terms to ride well.

[Matt B]