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PostPosted: 11:44 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: When is household rubbish not rubbish? Reply with quote

I recently installed a new double socket into plasterboard wall. Had to knock out what turned out to be less than a carrier bag's worth of plasterboard.

Looked on the local council's waste management website to gauge what can and cannot be lobbed in the bin.

All they have is "if you have been provided with a wheeled bin, we will only collect what is contained within that bin. You can use it for household rubbish which cannot be recycled. Cold fire ash should be bagged, and no household electrical items should be placed within the bin."

Ok, it's household rubbish. Lobbed it in.

Then the binmen left my wheelie bin by the kerb. Uncollected.

Speak to the council. They first tell me it was not left out in time. Then after arguing and them checking their records again it was because I had 'builders rubble in there'.

No budging. Nothing. It is builders rubble and they will not come back now until the next pick up in 2 weeks and if the 'builders rubble' is still in there then it will be left again.

Awaiting a call back from the leader of the council. Boiled my piss that has.

(bin is now empty as I popped up the dump instead with it)

Seems harsh they defend their policy all around 2 words "household rubbish". Ambiguous. What the hell is not 'household rubbish' when it is rubbish from my household?

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PostPosted: 11:48 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Next time cover up the 'rubble' in rubbish.
Stupid goons wouldn't take an old exhaust I put in the recycling.
Or some old shocks.
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

fly tip it outside the council building
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can neither confirm nor deny the accusations that I stopped off on the way back from the municipal dump, to purchase some black sacks.

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PostPosted: 11:55 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

mikester wrote:
fly tip it outside the council building


But here is a load of shitty nappies in ther...............ah, I like the cut of your jib, sir. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is long and prolly a bit boring, but I was impressed with my writing skills.

I had a similar argument with another resident (Knobhead) where i used to live.
We had to pay a service charge for the household waste to be collected.

He complained to my landlord about me spilling some oil, which i did clear up.

Email from Knobhead, to my landlord.
Quote:
Afraid CaNsA has had yet another accident with oil spill in front of your garage. He has made a sort of attempt to soak it up using soil, hoping that will soak up the stain ? Unfortunately that car park area is now look even more like the floor of Dudlow garage, and not acceptable. I'm now away for a week, if there is no improvement when I return then I will discuss with Thomson & Molton, I believe they have a contractor able to gunk and steam clean the area, not sure of the costing but will advise you prior to instructing.


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Yeah i have spilt some oil, yeah its not the 1st time. Funnily enough i will always clean it up. I tend to use a proven method of utilizing the acidic properties of Coca-Cola. I clean it up as i am aware that it can make the estate look like that people live there and that they have hobbies. If knobhead or his wife continues with these "threats", or they shout at me from their balcony, or come bouncing down to the garage after i ask either of them to come and speak to me and not shout down to me from the balcony i fear i may have to put a formal complaint as the actions of Knobhead and Knobhead's wife tend to make me feel i live on a inner-city council estate.

I would also like to raise the issue of "why i am not allowed to use any bin bar the one designated for my block" and "household waste only". It would be interesting to hear what i have put into the bin that would warrant such a rule being enforced so rigorously that the following events took place.
On Sunday (a day that most people usually carry out the following type of activities) I cleared out the garage that you have kindly let me use for storage of my motorbikes, amongst other items, and required the use of of a large bin to dispose of the rubbish. I collected the closest residential large bin to the garage and Knobhead's wife shouted at me (from the balcony) saying i am not allowed to use their bin (not communal then?) and that i should take the waste to the tip. I explained that i do not own a car and therefore it is not an option. I returned the bin to the storage area and collected the bin closest to the property i rent from you and pushed it along the road to the garage which caused some noise and no doubt caused distress to many of the hard of hearing, elderly residents.

This rubbish consisted of cardboard boxes that were flatten, leaves, dust, empty cans, cigarette boxes, old bedsheets, and other waste that you will find in any house. My friend is a Police Constable and was helping me. He climbed into the bin to make room for the other tenants to place their waste in there. Knobhead decided to shout at me from his balcony mentioning something about rubbish being stuck in the bin and again when i asked he come and speak to me his reply was "Oh I'll come down there!".
He proceeded to come downstairs displaying an aggressive stance and a very threatening expression which i can only imagine was intended to invoke a fear. He was unsuccessful. My friend wanted to return when he was next on shift to have a word with Knobhead about his behaviour and a section 5 (breach of the peace) would be issued as Knobhead was displaying anti-social behaviour. I have asked my friend not to do this, but i cannot guarantee he will not and nor can i be held accountable for the actions of the Merseyside Police Force.

Surely the waste removal company, that is paid for by the service charges, use a tried and tested method of removing the waste from the bins. If not it maybe a good idea for Knobhead to use his time in a more productive manner to find a waste removal company that can remove waste from large bins. Also, the waste company bin lorries spill diesel all over the road every week. Diesel spills are one of the greatest hazards to motorbike riders as it makes the surface incredibly slippery, causing the loss of grip and subsequently damage to the vehicle as it goes sliding down the road in a shower sparks and plastic that is very costly to repair.
Another hazard are the large nails that have been left all over the paths and road on the estate after the roof replacement work has been completed. My friend had to remove one of these from his brand new rear tyre (less than 50miles usage) that cost him in excess of £165. This tyre could not have been repaired safely and had to be replaced. I highly doubt the estate funds will be used to reimburse my visitor.


This is no help to you what so ever, but I thought i would share it all the same Very Happy
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PostPosted: 12:39 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

the flat i live in completely defeats the point in recycling

we were told when we moved in everything could go in one bag and wouldnt be any plastic/glass/paper waste disposal for the 12 flats.

if were really concerned we could go to the dump with it

but i dont as i cant really carry that stuff to the dump on my bike ... anyway yea you just just double black bagged the stuff and left a nice bit of mouldy cheese in there for when the collect Smile
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PostPosted: 12:52 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If in doubt I load the rubbish in my ancient Landrover and hold up the traffic as I crawl the ten miles to the nearest rubbish dump (sorry 'recycling centre') all the while belching out ozone-crippling kitten-suffocating fumes more heavily leaded than a ledger fishermans line.

Fuck the greens/hippies/enviro-terrorists.
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PostPosted: 13:05 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
This is long and prolly a bit boring, but I was impressed with my writing skills.

I had a similar argument with another resident (Knobhead) where i used to live.
We had to pay a service charge for the household waste to be collected.

He complained to my landlord about me spilling some oil, which i did clear up.

Email from Knobhead, to my landlord.
Quote:
Afraid CaNsA has had yet another accident with oil spill in front of your garage. He has made a sort of attempt to soak it up using soil, hoping that will soak up the stain ? Unfortunately that car park area is now look even more like the floor of Dudlow garage, and not acceptable. I'm now away for a week, if there is no improvement when I return then I will discuss with Thomson & Molton, I believe they have a contractor able to gunk and steam clean the area, not sure of the costing but will advise you prior to instructing.


My reply.

Quote:
Yeah i have spilt some oil, yeah its not the 1st time. Funnily enough i will always clean it up. I tend to use a proven method of utilizing the acidic properties of Coca-Cola. I clean it up as i am aware that it can make the estate look like that people live there and that they have hobbies. If knobhead or his wife continues with these "threats", or they shout at me from their balcony, or come bouncing down to the garage after i ask either of them to come and speak to me and not shout down to me from the balcony i fear i may have to put a formal complaint as the actions of Knobhead and Knobhead's wife tend to make me feel i live on a inner-city council estate.

I would also like to raise the issue of "why i am not allowed to use any bin bar the one designated for my block" and "household waste only". It would be interesting to hear what i have put into the bin that would warrant such a rule being enforced so rigorously that the following events took place.
On Sunday (a day that most people usually carry out the following type of activities) I cleared out the garage that you have kindly let me use for storage of my motorbikes, amongst other items, and required the use of of a large bin to dispose of the rubbish. I collected the closest residential large bin to the garage and Knobhead's wife shouted at me (from the balcony) saying i am not allowed to use their bin (not communal then?) and that i should take the waste to the tip. I explained that i do not own a car and therefore it is not an option. I returned the bin to the storage area and collected the bin closest to the property i rent from you and pushed it along the road to the garage which caused some noise and no doubt caused distress to many of the hard of hearing, elderly residents.

This rubbish consisted of cardboard boxes that were flatten, leaves, dust, empty cans, cigarette boxes, old bedsheets, and other waste that you will find in any house. My friend is a Police Constable and was helping me. He climbed into the bin to make room for the other tenants to place their waste in there. Knobhead decided to shout at me from his balcony mentioning something about rubbish being stuck in the bin and again when i asked he come and speak to me his reply was "Oh I'll come down there!".
He proceeded to come downstairs displaying an aggressive stance and a very threatening expression which i can only imagine was intended to invoke a fear. He was unsuccessful. My friend wanted to return when he was next on shift to have a word with Knobhead about his behaviour and a section 5 (breach of the peace) would be issued as Knobhead was displaying anti-social behaviour. I have asked my friend not to do this, but i cannot guarantee he will not and nor can i be held accountable for the actions of the Merseyside Police Force.

Surely the waste removal company, that is paid for by the service charges, use a tried and tested method of removing the waste from the bins. If not it maybe a good idea for Knobhead to use his time in a more productive manner to find a waste removal company that can remove waste from large bins. Also, the waste company bin lorries spill diesel all over the road every week. Diesel spills are one of the greatest hazards to motorbike riders as it makes the surface incredibly slippery, causing the loss of grip and subsequently damage to the vehicle as it goes sliding down the road in a shower sparks and plastic that is very costly to repair.
Another hazard are the large nails that have been left all over the paths and road on the estate after the roof replacement work has been completed. My friend had to remove one of these from his brand new rear tyre (less than 50miles usage) that cost him in excess of £165. This tyre could not have been repaired safely and had to be replaced. I highly doubt the estate funds will be used to reimburse my visitor.


This is no help to you what so ever, but I thought i would share it all the same Very Happy


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PostPosted: 13:06 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im fed up of these council nazis telling me what i cant and can put in the forced recycling.

So EVERYTHING now goes in the bin, oil , batteries you name it.

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PostPosted: 13:13 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
This is long and prolly a bit boring, but I was impressed with my writing skills.

I had a similar argument with another resident (Knobhead) where i used to live.
We had to pay a service charge for the household waste to be collected.

He complained to my landlord about me spilling some oil, which i did clear up.

Email from Knobhead, to my landlord.
Quote:
Afraid CaNsA has had yet another accident with oil spill in front of your garage. He has made a sort of attempt to soak it up using soil, hoping that will soak up the stain ? Unfortunately that car park area is now look even more like the floor of Dudlow garage, and not acceptable. I'm now away for a week, if there is no improvement when I return then I will discuss with Thomson & Molton, I believe they have a contractor able to gunk and steam clean the area, not sure of the costing but will advise you prior to instructing.


My reply.

Quote:
Yeah i have spilt some oil, yeah its not the 1st time. Funnily enough i will always clean it up. I tend to use a proven method of utilizing the acidic properties of Coca-Cola. I clean it up as i am aware that it can make the estate look like that people live there and that they have hobbies. If knobhead or his wife continues with these "threats", or they shout at me from their balcony, or come bouncing down to the garage after i ask either of them to come and speak to me and not shout down to me from the balcony i fear i may have to put a formal complaint as the actions of Knobhead and Knobhead's wife tend to make me feel i live on a inner-city council estate.

I would also like to raise the issue of "why i am not allowed to use any bin bar the one designated for my block" and "household waste only". It would be interesting to hear what i have put into the bin that would warrant such a rule being enforced so rigorously that the following events took place.
On Sunday (a day that most people usually carry out the following type of activities) I cleared out the garage that you have kindly let me use for storage of my motorbikes, amongst other items, and required the use of of a large bin to dispose of the rubbish. I collected the closest residential large bin to the garage and Knobhead's wife shouted at me (from the balcony) saying i am not allowed to use their bin (not communal then?) and that i should take the waste to the tip. I explained that i do not own a car and therefore it is not an option. I returned the bin to the storage area and collected the bin closest to the property i rent from you and pushed it along the road to the garage which caused some noise and no doubt caused distress to many of the hard of hearing, elderly residents.

This rubbish consisted of cardboard boxes that were flatten, leaves, dust, empty cans, cigarette boxes, old bedsheets, and other waste that you will find in any house. My friend is a Police Constable and was helping me. He climbed into the bin to make room for the other tenants to place their waste in there. Knobhead decided to shout at me from his balcony mentioning something about rubbish being stuck in the bin and again when i asked he come and speak to me his reply was "Oh I'll come down there!".
He proceeded to come downstairs displaying an aggressive stance and a very threatening expression which i can only imagine was intended to invoke a fear. He was unsuccessful. My friend wanted to return when he was next on shift to have a word with Knobhead about his behaviour and a section 5 (breach of the peace) would be issued as Knobhead was displaying anti-social behaviour. I have asked my friend not to do this, but i cannot guarantee he will not and nor can i be held accountable for the actions of the Merseyside Police Force.

Surely the waste removal company, that is paid for by the service charges, use a tried and tested method of removing the waste from the bins. If not it maybe a good idea for Knobhead to use his time in a more productive manner to find a waste removal company that can remove waste from large bins. Also, the waste company bin lorries spill diesel all over the road every week. Diesel spills are one of the greatest hazards to motorbike riders as it makes the surface incredibly slippery, causing the loss of grip and subsequently damage to the vehicle as it goes sliding down the road in a shower sparks and plastic that is very costly to repair.
Another hazard are the large nails that have been left all over the paths and road on the estate after the roof replacement work has been completed. My friend had to remove one of these from his brand new rear tyre (less than 50miles usage) that cost him in excess of £165. This tyre could not have been repaired safely and had to be replaced. I highly doubt the estate funds will be used to reimburse my visitor.


This is no help to you what so ever, but I thought i would share it all the same Very Happy


fantastic reply Smile -saved- Smile
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's silly, it's only a bit. Sounds like they're being dicks.

back in my nobby builder days we used to fill up everyone's bins on a street we worked on to save buying a skip, the client never cared as they were usually indians who wanted it on the cheap

I had a binman yell at me when I wa sputting bags in it "IF ITS TOO HEAVY TO CARRY ITS TOO HEAVY FOR THE BIN"
"ITS NOT TOO HEAVY TO CARRY, SEE! *puts in the bin*"

Best place for rubble is under the floorboards Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:30 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpha-9 wrote:
Best place for rubble is under the floorboards Laughing


Also the best place for local council jobsworths/fukwits
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PostPosted: 13:34 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_Pagin wrote:
Alpha-9 wrote:
Best place for rubble is under the floorboards Laughing


Also the best place for local council jobsworths/fukwits


They tend to smell a bit tho.

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PostPosted: 13:43 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

My gf loves to recycle (doesn't like turning the heating down though, but that's another story). I like to wind her up by claiming it all goes to the same landfill.

I find as long as it's in a black bag, the binmen will take anything.
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put some some sawdust bedding material in the brown garden refuse bin.
There was a note attached to the handle and it wasn't emptied.

The note said " Bin not emptied due to Non Organic material"

Contacted the council to ask what was non Organic about sawdust. After several emails, they couldn't answer and eventually said the bin is for garden refuse only Rolling Eyes

They also didn't collect the bin at work, again I contacted the council and they said the bin wasn't accessible, it was in exactly the same position it always is.
They tried to tell me it would be a fortnight before it was collected next. I pointed out the binmen empty the KFC's bin daily only just over the road and have their lunch break there. It was emptied next day Middle Finger
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've got a new supervisor at our local tip. He's already had a go at my neighbour for taking wheelbarrows full of rubble in. He told him he can only go in ten times a year with it, after that it's £20 a visit????.

He pulled me up the other week, there was some kid running about so he started to give me a bollocking about kids not being allowed in there, yeah, fine mate, only it isn't my fucking kid is it dickhead.

Give a council man a yellow coat and a peaked cap and the jobs fucked.
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PostPosted: 14:16 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

DON'T GET ME STARTED ON BINMEN. I HATE BINMEN.
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PostPosted: 14:20 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely, what is it about these types who man the recycling stations? I can't go there without getting some sort of bollocking for stupid shit. I treat a trip to the recycling centre as more like a special forces surgical strike operation, where you have to get in, complete the mission, and exfiltrate without being spotted.

Keeps me entertained, anyway ... Embarassed


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PostPosted: 14:20 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

10 pence Short wrote:
I put some some sawdust bedding material in the brown garden refuse bin.
There was a note attached to the handle and it wasn't emptied.

The note said " Bin not emptied due to Non Organic material"

Contacted the council to ask what was non Organic about sawdust. After several emails, they couldn't answer and eventually said the bin is for garden refuse only Rolling Eyes

They also didn't collect the bin at work, again I contacted the council and they said the bin wasn't accessible, it was in exactly the same position it always is.
They tried to tell me it would be a fortnight before it was collected next. I pointed out the binmen empty the KFC's bin daily only just over the road and have their lunch break there. It was emptied next day Middle Finger


lol, so wood is now non-organic?
I suppose the wizards conjured it out of another dimension Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:20 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
DON'T GET ME STARTED ON BINMEN. I HATE BINMEN.

Why?
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh no, you've angered them!
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PostPosted: 14:29 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raffles wrote:
Skudd wrote:
DON'T GET ME STARTED ON BINMEN. I HATE BINMEN.

Why?


WHY?, WHY????? BECAUSE THEY ARE BLOODY BINMEN.
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Man just rocked up with a new bin and to take my one away.

However, they didn't realize I had a king size 340l wheelie bin. I declined a smaller one on the grounds that it is their fault for switching to fortnightly collections. I needs me a big 'un!

He is coming back Friday instead. He also moaned about the 'bloody contractors' and also felt bemused at the 'builders rubble' claim.

Close to resolution though. I will keep the shitty nappies on stand by for the council HQ doorstep. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:52 - 09 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
DON'T GET ME STARTED ON BINMEN. I HATE BINMEN.


This!

The fucking CNUTS wake me up on my day off at 5.45am the other day. I look out the bedroom window to see them angrily throw a very large flattened cardboard box which was sitting next to my neigbours bin into my front garden.

Cue me opening the window giving them verbal that it wasnt my fucking box and to remove it from my property.

I think the sight of a crazy half naked redhead with bedhead knocked enough sense into him as he hastily removed said box and put it in the truck!!
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