indicating right on roundabouts, more dangerous than useful

[Ribenapigeon]

After another incident getting cutup while trying to exit a roundabout I'm convinced indicating right while goung around a roundabout is pointles. It just gives impatoiant people entering a roundabout a green light to undertake and then block you when you need to exit, they never see you switch to indicate left .

[TamaJosh]

Can take ages to get off again if it's busy but my ass has been saved numerous times by the ability to go round again. If some prick cuts you up you have no choice.

[Ribenapigeon]

To be fair the guy let me through and looked suitably contrite at cutting me up.

[weasley]

I've been riding for 11 years and am a fanatical indicator; I've never failed to leave a roundabaut at the desired exit. Remember this though, indicators mean only that the bulb is working so even if you do it right, people won't see it right so assume they won't. That said, you can never be wrong for doing right, so I always indicate as required but ride as if nobody has seen them.
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[J4mes]

Use your bikes acceleration to outpace other vehicles off the roundabout.

It's not hard, seriously. There are 16 roundabouts between my house and work, combinations of 1st-5th exits, dual carriageway, singles, some which appear to be wide enough for two cars but aren't marked for it and I have NEVER had an issue where someone has cut me up, blocked my exit or anything else.

Sure, some people straight-line them and don't see you, but you should be able to judge by vehicle speed and road position if they are going to do this, prepare for it and stay back or beat them to it.

As this is your third thread in about 10 days concerning indicators on roundabouts I think perhaps you need more experience or further training.

[Richtea]

^This

I'm not that experienced but have never had the issues you seem to be coming across on a regular basis.

Maybe you need a bit more training or to go out with a more experienced rider to lift your confidence a bit?
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[Ribenapigeon]

Hence doing a lifesaver. I never trust other peoples indicators or assume mine have been taken notice of.

[Rogerborg]

I've been undertaken by a mentalist on a pushbike on a roundabout while exiting. Sometimes the road conditions don't favour us.

There's always this option:

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/roadcode/motorcycle-road-code/gfx/signal-left-hand.jpg

Look on the bright side, you might punch a cyclist.
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[Ribenapigeon]

The last thing I want to do on my 125 is get into a race with a car and especially not on a roundabout exit.

[Dazbo666]

I would think that if your exits from roundabouts is becoming a regular issue, it's quite possible that riding style and/or road positioning could at least be contributing to the problem?!

I've had a car licence since 1989, and a bike licence since 2005, and can honestly say that roundabout exits have only ever been a very occasional issue.

I don't pretend to be an expert, but a certain amount (20+ years ) of road experience teaches me that observation and road positioning can resolve the vast majority of these types of problems.

As mentioned previously, going out with a more experienced rider etc could help
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[pendulum]

I hate it when cars join a roundabout as you go past them (or shortly after you've passed them) and accelerate up your inside to block your exit, it's happened once on the bike so far and many times in the car over the years, too many people don't fully get how roundabouts work.
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[Ribenapigeon]

Its not a regular issue. I'm using my bike every day all day as I use it for work. This particular roundabout I probably negotiate from various directions half a dozen times a day. It just seems to me that roundabouts are one of the worst places to encounter bad driving for a biker.

I've been driving since 1983 and cinsider myself well able to judge when someone has cut someone else up on a roundabaout. When I get some training I am going to pick the brains of the instructor over this.

I am suprised that others are saying they have no issue with getting cut up on a roundabout, but I have to wonder if maybe if you just whack on the throttle and race to exit maybe you just don't see the other guy cutting you up.

[Zombeh]

Sorry if this is a bone question but are you talking about a really complex roundabout with multiple lanes on it. These can be very confusing especially to those that don't use one regularly.

There's one round my way that has loads of different exits including on to dual carriageways and such. People dont realise that if you are traveling some distance round it then you have to start in the innermost lane and then move one lane outward every exit that you pass. Is yours like that?

[daemonoid]

[Ribenapigeon]

Its not a complex roundabout but it is fast and has six roads off it (its called The Six Roads) it also small and tight to get round. Anyway its not the roundabouts its the old git who nearly ran into me who's the problem.

[Ribenapigeon]

I'm not having a problem with roundabouts hahaa I've just made two threads about individual incidents.

I just did some fag-packet-calculations and I rekon I do about 250 plus roundabout negotiations a working week and I've been riding every working day since 20 march so that's about 1500 to date. I've had 3 incidents like this one. First was a guy in a old ford couger the second day I was riding the second a woman in a micra (I suspect a blind woman, poor thing) and the third the incident today. So I hardly think I'm developing a problem.

[Matt B]

Failing to indicate right on a roundabout will make people think you are going straight ahead/taking the next exit.
It is more likely they will pull out in front of you.
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[Ribenapigeon]

You can see someone pul out in front of you though. Much harder if they are racing up behind you.

[U_W v2.0]

[arry]

[chris-red]

I pretty much don't bother with indicators now, I only really use them when turning right on a major road or when there is something behind me and and I'm turning left.
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[Ribenapigeon]

my mirrors are crap i thinks its cos im tall its almost impossible to get a good angle of view with them, so i just look round

[janner_10]

Are you negotiating the roundabouts too slowly and not keeping up with the traffic flow if people are 'racing up behind you'?
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[Ribenapigeon]

Nope I'm not going too slow I got cutup by a blithering idiot.

[U_W v2.0]

i would definatly recomend you get some larger mirror arms, or even make your own. its pretty easy.

you just need threaded pole thats the same as the thread in your mirror hole on your bars, some round tube and other bits to fix the mirror onto and maybe a tube bender.

bend the tube to the right angles, cut to length, make a 1" slit up the tube for the bolt end, insert threaded pole, add a jubilee clip around and tighten like hell. (might need a rubber strip around it inside between the tube and threaded pole though)

add mirrors to other end and add to bike.

that way you can ensure you can get the full use from your mirrors and be able to see behind you without having to turn around all the time.

thats a last resort option anyway,

might just be easier to buy longer mirror arms.

being to tall to not use mirrors properly is a bad excuse
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