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Kwakki Si
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 12 May 2012    Post subject: any particular patterns to bike theft? Reply with quote

Due to circumstances my bike is kept out on the road, chained and disc locked (yes it will take a good theif 20seconds to remove) I was wondering what kind of bikes are more prone to being nicked, say do high value bikes that are worth a fair few grand more likely to get nicked and targated as they can sell on for alot and is worth the hassle etc or is my humble old zx6r g2 just as likely to be targeted even though its not worth much? Im guessing mine would attract the joyrider as appose to the profetion theif?!
Vandalism could be a problem aswell. anyone clued up on this subject? thought it would make for a bit of interest.
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 12 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

lock it to something and keep it covered seems to be the best advice I can give

re-route the side stand cut out switch to a secret switch somewhere on the bike, if some scrote nicks it every time it goes into gear it will cut out, and likely be abandoned
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PostPosted: 22:22 - 12 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

andys350 wrote:
lock it to something and keep it covered seems to be the best advice I can give

re-route the side stand cut out switch to a secret switch somewhere on the bike, if some scrote nicks it every time it goes into gear it will cut out, and likely be abandoned


Dont think mine has a side stand cut off swith as i can turn the engine on with the side stand down, guess that bits broke on me bike?
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 12 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

andys350 wrote:
re-route the side stand cut out switch to a secret switch somewhere on the bike, if some scrote nicks it every time it goes into gear it will cut out, and likely be abandoned


that will only stop ammeters. professional bike thieves will just pick up the bike and put it into the back of a large van.

having done some reading around your best bet is to keep it out of sight, but if you DO have to keep it on a public road or where it has easy access to the road try the following:

*Use a long quality chain to secure it to fixed railings or posts.
*Use disklocks where possible
*Use brakelocks along side disklocks
*Fit a high quality alarm with motion sensor
*Tell trusted people in the road its your bike (so if they see someone other than you on it, they can call the cops ect)
*Put a cover over it

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none of the above will stop a professional thief. but it will sure as hell slow them down if they have to disable/remove all of the above and they will probably look at it and move onto easier prey
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 12 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kwakki Si wrote:
andys350 wrote:
lock it to something and keep it covered seems to be the best advice I can give

re-route the side stand cut out switch to a secret switch somewhere on the bike, if some scrote nicks it every time it goes into gear it will cut out, and likely be abandoned


Dont think mine has a side stand cut off swith as i can turn the engine on with the side stand down, guess that bits broke on me bike?


mine was hanging off. and my bike started. best to check it over and look for one, if it is hanging off it could be in a potentially dangerous place (mine was just below the top half of the chain and could have got tangled and caused an accident)
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 12 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

secretreeve wrote:
andys350 wrote:
re-route the side stand cut out switch to a secret switch somewhere on the bike, if some scrote nicks it every time it goes into gear it will cut out, and likely be abandoned


that will only stop ammeters. professional bike thieves will just pick up the bike and put it into the back of a large van.

having done some reading around your best bet is to keep it out of sight, but if you DO have to keep it on a public road or where it has easy access to the road try the following:

*Use a long quality chain to secure it to fixed railings or posts.
*Use disklocks where possible
*Use brakelocks along side disklocks
*Fit a high quality alarm with motion sensor
*Tell trusted people in the road its your bike (so if they see someone other than you on it, they can call the cops ect)
*Put a cover over it


Thanks for the info Smile will try and do all the following! I am hinking of getting an alarmed disc lock, are these ok or do they keep going off all the time, really dont want to ago the neighbours... Got a cover on it but it has in big letter R & G RACING so this might be sending out the wrong message lol. Its a pain in the arse having it out in the road but didnt want to let it stop me becoming a biker.
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 12 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

they "should" only go off if someone kicks the lock or if someone tries rolling it and it hits the forks/mudguard. they're usually impact triggered so in all fairness, lifting the front wheel and setting it back down could also trigger it.

some are movement triggered as well though.

probably go off less than most car alarms lol.

as a side not, is the back garden not a viable storage place?
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PostPosted: 23:52 - 12 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

secretreeve wrote:
andys350 wrote:
re-route the side stand cut out switch to a secret switch somewhere on the bike


that will only stop ammeters.


It's too late to think up something suitably witty but the irony of that has really made me chuckle Very Happy
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PostPosted: 00:10 - 13 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

no im not gunna ride as his pillion holding the wires together!

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PostPosted: 06:41 - 13 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

secretreeve wrote:
they "should" only go off if someone kicks the lock or if someone tries rolling it and it hits the forks/mudguard. they're usually impact triggered so in all fairness, lifting the front wheel and setting it back down could also trigger it.

some are movement triggered as well though.

probably go off less than most car alarms lol.

as a side not, is the back garden not a viable storage place?


No back garden is not viable... damn i wish i had a garage, next time we move that will be the number one priority.
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PostPosted: 07:58 - 13 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
secretreeve wrote:
....re-route the side stand cut out switch to a secret switch somewhere on the bike....

that will only stop ammeters.


It's too late to think up something suitably witty but the irony of that has really made me chuckle Very Happy


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PostPosted: 08:13 - 13 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the comman theive, mopeds and supermoto's are the most attractive. Mopeds are easy to ride, while supermoto's are very lightweight, thus easily stolen!

Like you said, someone with a few braincells would be able to steal nearly any bike, under the best security. These "Clever" thieves, steel to order. So if they had "clients" that wanted parts ect then said thieve would steel the bike and sell off the parts. This is unlikly in your case, so all you have to do is deter the mindless thug who thinks he will look cool on your bike.

Which is fairly easy, if you make the bike look hard to get, they wont bother in the first place, as said already disc locks, chains, and fit your own alarm and your bike shouldn't be going anywhere!! Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 08:15 - 13 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kwakki Si wrote:

Thanks for the info Smile will try and do all the following! I am hinking of getting an alarmed disc lock, are these ok or do they keep going off all the time, really dont want to ago the neighbours... Got a cover on it but it has in big letter R & G RACING so this might be sending out the wrong message lol. Its a pain in the arse having it out in the road but didnt want to let it stop me becoming a biker.


I have an "Oxford Screamer" alarmed disc, and it constantly went off in the rain, annoying me AND the neighbours. For the cost of £20 you can pick up a perfectly reasonable alarm on e-bay that only really needs to be wired to the battery, and maybe plug in and locate the flashing blue LED. Then add a normal disc lock to that.
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 13 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding "patterns" of theft, all I know is that chavscum LOVE trailbikes (which they irritatingly refer to as "crossers") ... and will do almost anything to thieve them.

I dearly long to have another trail bike on the road, whether big or small, but living in East London, its simply pointless, it would last about 2 days if I was lucky before some scrotehead tried to steal it.
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 13 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
Regarding "patterns" of theft, all I know is that chavscum LOVE trailbikes (which they irritatingly refer to as "crossers") ... and will do almost anything to thieve them.

I dearly long to have another trail bike on the road, whether big or small, but living in East London, its simply pointless, it would last about 2 days if I was lucky before some scrotehead tried to steal it.


0.o A friend of mine has a DRZ400s, has had it for a good 4 years (i think) likes in north london and commutes to work in central daily, yet to have a single problem!
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 13 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

secretreeve wrote:

as a side not, is the back garden not a viable storage place?


The back-garden isn't the best place to store a motorcycle but if it's all you've got then buy a ground anchor and put it into a dustbin filled with concrete.

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BTW. does anyone have any ideas for making the traditional dustbin-anchor less obtrusive? It's not the prettiest thing ever!
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PostPosted: 13:04 - 13 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

All this talk of multiple security devices is imo pointless.
if someone wants your bike, they are gonna get it.

A chain and / or disc lock and an alarm will deter 99.9% of the
usual chav scum scrotes, after all they want something easy
to take, to rag around for a bit. They don't walk around with bolt
croppers and stuff.

The man with a van, if he wants it, its gone, and no amount of
security will stop it from happening

There isn't really a bike that's targeted more than others.

Scooters seem to get stolen more often, but that's probably down
to the fact less owners actually use any kind of security device, a
just rely on say the steering lock.

High end bikes are a no go for your common garden thief, along wit
rusty pieces of crap, choppers / cruisers again not that sought after.

So go high end or scrape the botto of the barrel and you 'should' be
fine, go for something mid range and sporty, stick a lock and alarm on it
and again you 'should' be fine

Would be interesting to have a poll and see the percentage of bikes stolen
from members of this forum, along with bike types and security used.

I really don't think bike theft is as common as people like to make out.

I mean, I know about 30 riders locally, and only one has ever had a bike nicked,
and that was when he left the keys in it. Most have been riding for years, so that's
one out of say 150 bikes.
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 13 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mate has just had his beloved SuperDuke nicked. He had all sorts of security devices all over it...and they managed to nick it without waking up the neighbourhood, setting off any alarms and getting through all the other security items.

It's been said once, I'll say it again. If the bike thieves want it, they will take it...no matter what security devices you have in place.

Best place to store it is in your hallway with a bungee strap attached to your toe. Neutral
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PostPosted: 09:53 - 15 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to leave my bike chained to a lamp post outside the girlfriends house as there is no garage and I can't get the bike in the back yard. 19mm chain & Abloy 362 through the back wheel, frame and round lamp post. 13mm chain through front wheel, cover and yokes then round the lamp post and an Abloy 342.

Alarmed disclock and bike cover finish things off. Yes it is a pain in the arse locking up & unlocking. But not as bigger pain in the arse as waking up to find your lock and chain purchased from a bike shop on the floor and your R6 gone.
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