How to take a bike home? (without CBT :/)

[naf456]

Hello. The Name's Nathan.
I'm new to the forum - and am a new rider - of 17 years of age.
I've taken my CBT Saturday - but still need to finish it, which is going to be next Monday - However, A Bike I like for sale is ending on Friday , this week - and am wondering - If I manage to Purchase it - How I would take it home?

I'm going to look at the bike tomorrow at 5 PM - it's fairly old 1982 125 2 stroke Yamaha - any buying advise would be great.

My Parents think it's impossible - however - "If There's a Will - There's a Way!"

I have thought about draining the petrol and oil - taking off the wheels, and trying to fit it into my mum's car. - it's a rover 414 salon - it's fairly big with all the seats down - however I have no clue about the safety aspects of fitting in a motorcycle on it's side - neither if it's actually doable - I mean - there pretty heavy!

Also - I Thought about wheeling it home. I Have done the walk before with a friend - however it's fairly long - about 2 hours it took to get home - I Live in the suburbs of Plymouth - and the motorcycle is in town. I'm pretty fit - and think it's an option.

Another option was to just hire somebody to drive it home on a trailer - the bike has full MOT and tax - I'm the only person who is the problem - and I'm not confident enough to drive it from town yet anyway.

I would love to hear your suggestions
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[Nexus Icon]

I'm guessing no friends or family have enough licence entitlement to ride it home for you?

Personally, I'd ask the seller to keep it until Monday for me. Put down a healthy deposit and get a receipt.

I'd hold it for you, if I was the seller, and I'm sure most people would.
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[the_quick]

Hire a Van
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[JoeDougieDoug...]

A bike is for sale ENDING on Friday? Does this mean that its an auction on eBay or similar? If so, just tell the seller you'll pick it up on Monday, i'm sure he won't mind.
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[WannaBeDude]

Failed cbt and a new bike, death is upon you !!!
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[DrSnoosnoo]

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[Rogerborg]

A 30 year old 2 stroke? Probably not an ideal first bike, but the heart wants what the heart wants.

On a 2 hour push, you're likely to run into PC McTargets who will first assume that you've nicked it. Assuming that you can convince him otherwise, he'll send you on your way with a cheery wink and a nod take the huff and do you for no insurance[1] or at least slap you with a Section 59 and then seize your bike if you attempt to carry on.

I'm with Nexus, if the seller seems decent enough, then offer to pay much or even all of the price in return for the V5C, keys and putting your own lock on it until you can pick it up.

[1] RTA 1988 Section 143 (1) (a) a person must not use a motor vehicle on a road or other public place unless [it is insured]
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[_Iain_]

I would, and have in the past collected cars and the YBR with no insurance, tax and on at least one occasion mot too. It's a case of making sure the vehicle in question doesnt look suspicious, and not riding like a bellend. Oh, and ffs check the brake lights and indicators work!

But thats just me i guess

You'll get it in mums car with nothing else in it and possibly a seat removed, and you'll utterly ruin the interior doing it. Might need the front wheel taking off too. I wouldnt!
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[TamaJosh]

Like everyone else said, get the seller to hold it for you. They won't mind!

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[Benno]

[thomp1983]

if the bikes legal then ask the seller if he wouldn't mine dropping it off if you give him a lift back and explain your situation most people would be helpful

chris

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[Teflon-Mike]

One would PRESUME that the person flogging it, has a licence, and has been riding it?

Where does THAT lead you?

You go see, you check bike out and ask him if he'll deliver it for you.

Mum can drop him back when he brings it round, cant she? Why stick bike in car when you can more easily cart its rider?

If you make him a good enough 'off-board' offer? Or agree a delivery charge over 'auction' price.

Or pay the man, leave it at his until you have ticket to ride it, what a WHOLE day or so? Get mum to drop you there, & follow you home!

Seems you are looking to do it the hard way to me!
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[WannaBeDude]

Op just wants the bike to ride for the weekend, even if it means pushing the fucker over monday legal.
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[GrumpyGuts]

[Ribenapigeon]

If thats an Yamaha RD125 and its in good nick buy it. Its a collectors item they are getting good prices and wold not be difficult to do up. When i was 17 that was the bike to have until the LC`s came out and even then it was tres coolio.

https://media.photobucket.com/image/yamaha%20rd125/fs1e-a/017-2.jpg

[Teflon-Mike]

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i brought mine, no CBT, no insurance, no tax and liscence was at the DVLA getting the address changed.

i just pushed it home. up several hills mind and she's a heavy little 125 rofl.

still that wasa 45 minute push, i dont think 2 hours of pushing the bike home is favourable.

i'd get him to delivery it and ask ur mom or a freind to drop him home.

p.s, im guessing its not the huoniao HN-125 you said about on the owners forum?
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[Sako]

Either...

1. ask the seller if he would be prepared to deliver it for a fee

2. get a friend / family member to hire a van and take it home

3. pass CBT and collect once completed

[naf456]

[Teflon-Mike]

OK, two strokes are not all bad, and that (seen the add BTW, nice bike for the money...
watch it doesn't shoot to silly price in last few moments of auction, and keep your impulses to out-bid your budget under control!
Set a price you are prepared to pay for it.... wait until 2min to auct end, enter it, then confirm that bid as close as you dare to the wire, and if you DONT win, or are instantly out-bid, GAME OVER.

That bike is worth, realistically £400 tops, but Owner is optimistic, which is why he's mentioning things like £180 'New old Stock' petrol tank, and 'new' seat cover.... 15 years ago.....

The Yammie Air-cooled engines are pretty zippy little things, they have quite a bit of poke, probably on a pre-82 model as much as any modern Learner-Legal, YET they are tough old boots, that are not that demanding of maintenence.

THAT one though, I would be researching. AND researching carefully. Thats a bike of my era; and would have been a 5 year old machine I might have looked at as a Learner-Bike when I was 17.

But NOT a common one. The 100cc commuters were a lot more common, becouse they were as powerful as the 125's and cheaper to insure, and we could still test on them, back then.

I am NOT a newbie, and am well aware of what to expect with an 'old classic', problems, niggles, reliability etc, and long enough in the tooth to know how to deal with it.

And I do play with 'tiddlers' becouse I like them, even though I have held a full licence longer than you have been on the planet!

So... said I dont know much about THAT particular model. I believe its closely related to the RXS100 and the YB100, and not got much if any commonality with any of the DT engine's.

I know that there is a lot of 'tin' in those older budget Yammies, like seat-bases and mudguards, and this can prove problematic.

My first renovation was a 1979 Yamaha DT50 with tin seat base & I spent a month of lunch-times at school in metalwork shop braking plates onto it!

Aparently RXS's sufer similarly, & I guess that one may be likewise. Mudguards, fronts are often not such a problem, 'universal' after market replacements are easily drilled to fit. Rears? Often more troublesome.

Engine wise, they are pretty rugged. Full engine strip, you could probably rebuild the gearbox with off the shelf seals and bearings.

Likewise, crank probably easy to get re-conditioned.

What I would be looking to check out would be the availability of new con-rods as these are the outer bearing race of big & little ends so do wear out on two strokes, and pistons.

I SUSPECT that there is a catalogue piston the right size for it. Its possibly common to one of the other Yammie models, they didn't engineer new parts needing new tooling if they could avoid it.... BUT how much and where from, I would want to know FIRST.

I would also be pondering carburettor condition, they often give trouble, and COULD be an unusual one not used on another bike.

Likewise reed-block and reeds.

LIVING with an old classic...... EXPECT HASSLE.

If you dont get any, treat that as a bonus.

These old bikes get pulled out of garages, sheds and lofts, people scrub them up, get them running, even get MOT's on them THEN start finding the 'problems' and digging into how much they will have to spend to fix them, or simply running out of patients, FLOG ON.

Some-times its better to buy a completely derelict 'project' bike thats not been fucked around with, than one half arsed pressed back into service.

Common faults are carburettor or fueling, and frequently on bikes being flogged on, not simple problems like an air leak. Ignition faults, again, beyoind replacing teh spark plug.

Electrical gremlins are a CONSTANT source of frustration, with dim lights, poor earths and stuff working as and when it feels like, with corroded wiring and contacts, weak contact springs, poor joints and wires and insulation that have gone hard and perished and got damp in them.

WD40 will LOVE you!

As a 'First-Bike' if you have the patience and fortiutude for all this kind of stuff, can be great fun... but you wont be riding as much as you are twiddling spanners.... and you would be a FOOL to be expecting to rely on it to get you to school/college/work every day..... especially if its any distance away!

Learning to ride, is one thing. Have a good bike under your bum, any strange noises wobbles or falling off, YOUR FAULT, do something different.

On an old classic, you are going to be learning to diagnose bike faults too, and if you cant eliminate wobbles you are causing from wobbles, say worn suspension bushes or a loose head-race or out of true wheel are causing, your pissing in the wind trying to sort out your riding AND your bike.

AND, its an old classic built in different days to different standards.

As said, you will be suffering 'old' electrical problems, but Lights? They are old tungsten filliment 6v jobs that barely brighter than a glow-worm in a jam jar when they were new, and which got brighter and dimmer with engine revs, and blew bulbs regularly when the regulator was 'good'.

NOT going to be wonderful, when they are down on volts becouse of corroded conectors and high resistance oxidised wires, and what light you DO get isn't being chuked out through the yellowed and etched lense, by the dull, tarnished and probably corroded reflector at the back.

DRUM BRAKES.... great things, deat easy to overhaul with new shoes (check availability) and a new cable and a bit of brake grease. But again. 1970's road tests only described them as 'adequete' and that was when 'adequete' was measured by standards of other drum brakes! Ditto Tyres.

Thise is NOT going to be the easiest and most confidence inspiring machine to ride, and you will NOT be able to take the liberties you could with a more modern machine, and WILL not only have to learn to leave 'adequete' braking distance and ride 'predictively' but make BIG compensation for your sub-standard machines capabilities.

Are you STILL thinking its a 'good' bike to go for?

If you have the right mind-set, if you are prepared for what you are letting yourself in for, and have the help expertise, tools and guidance to be able to deal with it, COULD be 'fun'....

But iof you expect shit & giggles razzing about with your mates, and never lifting a spanner extept to try and find the magic de-restriction washer.... NOT the bike for you, and you WILL be frustrated and let down by it.

THINK HARD.

Its CHEAP... at the moment..... could go to silly bid, if SOME-ONE is convinced rarity means money, or its a 'Must-Have' teenage revival toy becouse they had one as a first bike.

If its a GOOD'N.... its only worth, for its functionality £400.... but even at that, you could easily get the thing home, and rapidly crank up a list of needed parts that could DOUBLE that price.

New Tyres, probably around £90 a pair. Get the old tyres off and dicover the rims are rotten? You could be looking at another £200 a WHEEL to have them re-rimmed. Brakes? £15 a wheel set for shoes. THAT is the cheap bit! Steering bearings? £35. New rear shock-absorbers? Possibly £70. New points and condensor? £10 points, £8 for a condensor. Ignition coil? Could be £20. Regulator, or 'Zenner Diode'? Gawd knows. But point is, these 'little' things can quickly mount up, depending what needs doing, to sort what at the outset seem like just 'little niggles'.

THEN your 'Cheap' 125, becomes RATHER more expensive.

And buying something more expensive at the outset that has less 'risk' associated with it, that it wont let you down, cost money, or give hassle CAN prove a lot 'cheaper' in the long run, and CERTAINLY a lot 'nicer' to own and easier to live with.

And the BENCH-MARK learner bike is a three-four year old Yamaha YBR125, that would set you back maybe £1200.

Think on it.

Aprillia RS kiddie go kwik bike, is yeah, likely to frustrate through poor reliability and crasjing teh damn thing. Old RS125, sensible choice, THIRTY YEARS AGO..... but where abuse makes Apriollias unreliable, this one just has shear AGE against it. Least you can get bits off the shelf for a 'prilla!
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[janner_10]

I would get the bloke to deliver it to you across town, bung him a case of beer and a lift back - can't see many disagreeing with that.
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