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PostPosted: 22:17 - 15 May 2012    Post subject: When/If i pass my tests......what kind of 33BHP machine? Reply with quote

Im going to keep my 125 for work but want a 33BHP for the weekends. Im thinking of Kawasaki ninja 250R but are there any other bikes i should consider?
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PostPosted: 22:20 - 15 May 2012    Post subject: Re: When/If i pass my tests......what kind of 33BHP machine? Reply with quote

Boozehawk wrote:
Im going to keep my 125 for work but want a 33BHP for the weekends. Im thinking of Kawasaki ninja 250R but are there any other bikes i should consider?


Had a look into this when I was thinking of doing A2.
Personally I would restrict a 500 or 600 commuter, the Ninja 250 seemed far too expensive for what you get really (mainly because the 33bhp version is relatively new).
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 15 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im not sure how you go about restricting a bike.
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PostPosted: 23:38 - 15 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boozehawk wrote:
Im not sure how you go about restricting a bike.
Usually done by sticking some washers between the engine and the air inlet, restricting the amount of air available. Restrictors usually cost about £30 on eBay and you could probably fit them yourself without much hassle.
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PostPosted: 07:17 - 16 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went 125 -> 250 -> 305 (~33bhp) -> 500.

The ride on the 500 is vastly superior to the 305. It's more stable, handles better, and the engine is much more flexible.

What an engine restrictor does is to limit the amount of fuel+air available. This is essentially the same as just not opening the throttle fully. On a 500-650 bike, you'll still get much of the usable torque and you'll see about 100mph. Some muggers will try and charge you over £200 for putting in a couple of washers and giving you an ultimately worthless "certificate" which has no meaning in law. At the other end of the range, you can pick up a couple of repair washers, drill (approximately) 20mm holes in them, and fit them yourself in under an hour.

Also, license changes next year will devalue 33bhp bikes since the new mid-range license category will be 46bhp, e.g. an unrestricted GS500.

Based on all that, I'd say go for a restricted 500+ bike.
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PostPosted: 07:20 - 16 May 2012    Post subject: Re: When/If i pass my tests......what kind of 33BHP machine? Reply with quote

Derivative wrote:
Boozehawk wrote:
Im going to keep my 125 for work but want a 33BHP for the weekends. Im thinking of Kawasaki ninja 250R but are there any other bikes i should consider?


Had a look into this when I was thinking of doing A2.
Personally I would restrict a 500 or 600 commuter, the Ninja 250 seemed far too expensive for what you get really (mainly because the 33bhp version is relatively new).


I agree with Derivative. Thumbs Up

Also, after next years license changes, there will be no market for 250cc bikes, so you'll lose a lot of money in that sense. I'd go for a nice 33bhp restricted Diversion 600 (2010 onwards...), They're gorgeous!
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PostPosted: 07:55 - 16 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any idea what it costs to get a garage to fit a restrictor kit?
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PostPosted: 08:16 - 16 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boozehawk wrote:
Any idea what it costs to get a garage to fit a restrictor kit?


You're probably talking £100+.

Its easy enough to do yourself... take off the seat, take off the tank, take off the air box, put the 4 washers in the 4 carb inlets and reassemble. Smile

If you buy a Fuel Injected bike, then you're looking at a lot more money.
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PostPosted: 08:50 - 16 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm just looked at the XJ 600, nice and good second hand prices I think i will keep an eye on my local Yammy dealer and see if I could chat them up to sling on a restrictor if I buy one through them.
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PostPosted: 09:03 - 16 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boozehawk wrote:
Hmmm just looked at the XJ 600, nice and good second hand prices I think i will keep an eye on my local Yammy dealer and see if I could chat them up to sling on a restrictor if I buy one through them.


Should be able to.

If you're buying from a dealer, using a line something like "I like the bike... but for that price I can't afford to buy it and get it restricted... would you be able to restrict it for me too in that price if I bought that bike?"

When I was at the Suzy dealers, the guy didn't even bat an eyelid to saying yes. Didn't go for that bike in the end though, found one with 4x the miles (5k=>20k) for about 600 quid less!
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PostPosted: 10:07 - 16 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

well i better get on with doing my tests hahaa i havent even booked my theory yet.
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