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PostPosted: 16:40 - 15 May 2012    Post subject: cbx 250 rse Reply with quote

Anybody know anything about these? Can't find much in the way of stats. About all I've discovered is that there aren't many about. This one's near me so I might have a looksee. Problem to maintain, rare parts?

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Incidentally, I'm looking for a reliable and comprehensive bike stats website if you know one.
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PostPosted: 16:49 - 15 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

In before Teflon Mikes essay Wink


Looks like a good buy with all those spares and is a tidy bike.
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PostPosted: 16:53 - 15 May 2012    Post subject: Re: cbx 250 rse Reply with quote

treehouse wrote:
Anybody know anything about these? Can't find much in the way of stats. About all I've discovered is that there aren't many about. This one's near me so I might have a looksee. Problem to maintain, rare parts?

WAZZAT?

Incidentally, I'm looking for a reliable and comprehensive bike stats website if you know one.


Apparently 31hp and 100mph+ so a very quick 250 single that should make the most of the 33hp limit.
If you consider that the current 'new' cb250 comes in at 23hp and weighs more it looks a pretty well specced bike from the 80s...
I'm sure you could get all parts from Dave Silver, it must share a lot with the earlier cb250rs that was very common.
Good article here:

https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/Honda/honda_cbx250%2087.htm
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 15 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a good buy with all those spares, which I suspect would be very hard to get hold of otherwise. Will be interesting to see how much it fetches.
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PostPosted: 17:23 - 15 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks good, be worth trying to call a few suppliers in advance to find out availability of parts - might help make your mind up.
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 15 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hondas 250 sports bike back int eh day - a completely differnt beastie from the other CBs. Lighter and somewhat more responsive.

I have a CBX250RSe engine in the clubman, and its been a fucking nightmare to get parts.

It took me 18 months to track down a new 'old stock' inlet manifold rubber.

The clubman is pretty much the same bike and I think it is a fantastic piece of kit. I wouldn't recomend one as the daily rider though purely because of the parts issue.

Having said that. It is awful pretty...
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PostPosted: 22:07 - 15 May 2012    Post subject: Re: cbx 250 rse Reply with quote

Cheeseybeaner wrote:
Apparently 31hp and 100mph+ so a very quick 250 single that should make the most of the 33hp limit.

NOT A HOPE!
It was the CB250S, with the XL250's Radial Four Valve Head. Bumped power from about 20bhp to MAYBE 25, and offers real world 80mph performance.
Back-to-back against the contemprary CB250N Super-Dream, which knocked out 27bhp with three valve heads from the twin-cylinder counterbalenced engine, it was applauded for being everything the 'Dream wasn't. Light, nible, agile, and responsive, but JUST as 'slow'.

£500? Seems reasonable for one.

Personally though, I think I would put my spend elsewhere. They aren't THAT exiting, or THAT cheap, or THAT easy to live with.
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PostPosted: 23:51 - 15 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
In before Teflon Mikes essay Wink
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He kept it short and sweet actually!
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PostPosted: 00:04 - 16 May 2012    Post subject: Re: cbx 250 rse Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
0 single that should make the most of the 33hp limit.

NOT A HOPE!
It was the CB250S, with the XL250's Radial Four Valve Head. Bumped power from about 20bhp to MAYBE 25, and offers real world 80mph performance.
Back-to-back against the contemprary CB250N Super-Dream, which knocked out 27bhp with three valve heads from the twin-cylinder counterbalenced engine, it was applauded for being everything the 'Dream wasn't. Light, nible, agile, and responsive, but JUST as 'slow'.

£500? Seems reasonable for one.

Personally though, I think I would put my spend elsewhere. They aren't THAT exiting, or THAT cheap, or THAT easy to live with.[/quote]

Everything I've read suggests they'd manage a ton with 31hp. The CB250RS which came before it with 26hp would have done 90 surely?
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PostPosted: 00:13 - 16 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all of you for comments and link to MCS page (I've been there once back when I started looking and missed it this time round for some reason). I wish there was a quote-all button and I'd respond to different bits, but I think I've pretty well made up my mind. I suspected the parts might be a problem, and this did it loud and clear:
Kal wrote:
I have a CBX250RSe engine in the clubman, and its been a fucking nightmare to get parts.

It took me 18 months to track down a new 'old stock' inlet manifold rubber.

The clubman is pretty much the same bike and I think it is a fantastic piece of kit. I wouldn't recomend one as the daily rider though purely because of the parts issue.

Having said that. It is awful pretty...

Yeah, I noticed the Clubman had higher power spec somewhere too.

In addition to the parts problem, that review at MCS mentions two big flaws, the over-gearing making top almost useless and 100mph a laugh (not that I want 100mph), and the vibration, which is probably more of an issue, not just for comfort but for the extra wear of those nightmare-to-find parts.

I'd get a standard RS a lot cheaper I presume, but I quite fancy a 250 twin instead, maybe a CB250W I think it is - the later semi-cruiser, Two-Fifty/Nighthawkish thingumajig. More parts and later production. Sod 100mph, I'd rather have a nighthawk than a nightmare. Suzuki GN250 perhaps on the radar too. And this Yamaha SR looks rather devilish. Twisted Evil Dig that plate!
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PostPosted: 00:29 - 16 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever the horsepower, mine has enough grunt to go faster than a superdream. I have raced the same pooper twice on the same bit of road. It's a roundabout linked dual carriageway and I toasted him easy.
He was abit bigger than me but still ate my dust like the pooper lover he is. I suspect with my lighter wheels and superior suspension my RSA would leave him pointing at hedges in every corner, whilst I with more ground clearance wouldn't be leaving a trail of sparks towards said hedge.

RS stands for Racing Single Wink

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PostPosted: 01:08 - 16 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Howling Terror wrote:
Whatever the horsepower, mine has enough grunt to go faster than a superdream. I have raced the same pooper twice on the same bit of road. It's a roundabout linked dual carriageway and I toasted him easy.
He was abit bigger than me but still ate my dust like the pooper lover he is. I suspect with my lighter wheels and superior suspension my RSA would leave him pointing at hedges in every corner, whilst I with more ground clearance wouldn't be leaving a trail of sparks towards said hedge.

RS stands for Racing Single Wink

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Nice. I'm starting to like RSs. Waiting for one to come up for sale within a hundred miles or so!
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PostPosted: 10:32 - 16 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

For £500 that looks like a good buy. If it came to it you could always break the bike and Ebay the bits. It might take you a while and use up a bit of garage space, but I bet you'd turn a decent profit.

There is a similar bike near where I live. An old bloke has it, doesn't ride it very often and it just sits under a cover waiting to be nicked/vandalised. I'm tempted to make him an offer, so shall be interested to see how much the one on Ebay goes for.
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PostPosted: 10:48 - 16 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Howling Terror wrote:
CB250RS


CBX250RSe is a different beastie.

Hondas X during the early 80's was pretty much what the R is now.

New out of the box they were supposed to hit an indicated 90mph, I would be surprised if even a cherished even a cherished rebuild could break more than 80mph.

Still a pretty bike that is light, easy to handle and easy to ride. Kind of like the popular girl at school.


If you do buy it and it has a spare alternator, case and pick up I could rehome them for you Smile
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 17 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kal wrote:
Howling Terror wrote:
CB250RS


CBX250RSe is a different beastie.

Thassright - I think Howling Terror was following from this
Cheeseybeaner wrote:
Everything I've read suggests they'd manage a ton with 31hp. The CB250RS which came before it with 26hp would have done 90 surely?

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Hondas X during the early 80's was pretty much what the R is now.

New out of the box they were supposed to hit an indicated 90mph,

The stats we found say 102, but the interesting review there puts it in perspective.

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I would be surprised if even a cherished even a cherished rebuild could break more than 80mph.

Why's that?

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Still a pretty bike that is light, easy to handle and easy to ride. Kind of like the popular girl at school.
Very Happy I think that was the CBXXX.

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If you do buy it and it has a spare alternator, case and pick up I could rehome them for you Smile
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Since I checked out different bikes at https://www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/ (not forgetting to set "UK" units or everything is depressingly low), I'm rather reluctant to switch from my CBR125 to anything else! I must start recording my fuel stops - I thought it was somewhere in the mid-60s, but it should be nearer 100! That site makes interesting reading for anyone who says "It doesn't matter what bike you get; economy is most affected by how you ride it" (presumably people at fuelly are interested in economy no matter what size their bike, but they consistently fail to get much of it on bigger bikes, "in the real world". Anyway, that's another argument. Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:46 - 17 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Once onto the mile straights, with the mirrors off and the slight and wizened form of El Gimpo not so much in the saddle as lying along the tank, the sun shining and a gentle breeze urging him into to radar trap, consistent. 102mph readings were obtainable.'

Should happily do that sort of speed with 30 odd hp.
My MZ 250 would manage 85mph-ish on 21hp, same basic weight as the cbx250rs.
The weight isn't much different to some of the sporty 125s with similar 25-30hp listed power outputs.
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PostPosted: 09:12 - 04 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

In case anyone missed it and cares, it went for over £1200.
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