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| Have you signed the motorcycling e-petitions |
| Yes, I support them and value my civil liberties |
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55% |
[ 10 ] |
| No, but intend to soon |
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11% |
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| No, I don't care either way |
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33% |
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 Posted: 10:19 - 16 May 2012  Post subject: e-petitions need more signatures |
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Just had a quick look at e-petitions and note the following:
1. The petition for compulsory motorcycle related questions in the car theory test is doing pretty well with 38185 votes
2. The petition objecting to the ban of after-market mods is not doing quite so well: 14304 votes
3. The petition objecting to compulsory high viz clothing is doing abysmally - just 811 votes
The intention of this post is not to open up debate again on the pros and cons of these issues. But if you support these petitions, please sign them if you haven't already. It takes just a few minutes; you can cut and paste your address as well. If its any help, here are the links:
https://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/22251
https://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/14185
Http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/26272
Also, if you support the activities of MAG and BMF, and can spare the membership fee, please join up.
I know other members are putting up posts about the importance of signing e-petitions. This post is in support of those members and to highlight the desperate need for more signatures.
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Write in vote: No, but I've done far more constructive things, e.g. emailed my MEPs and the UK MEPs on the Transport Committee and responded to various DfT biking consultations.
All we're demonstrating with those daft petitions is how few people really care about the issues. That's the main point of the epetition site, as I see it, identifying niche issues that can safely be ignored.
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| G wrote: | | Alpha-9 wrote: | The only time I wrote to my MP wa sa long letter about the dangers of fluorodising water supplies, in which I may have compared them to some nazi experiments...
all I got back was an email several weeks later asking me to confirm my address and surname, creepy fuckers |
And what dangers did you portray?
This is a typical 'nutter' issue which it seems you were approaching in a typical nutter manner; so I'm not surprised they wanted to at least find out if you were a voter in their area or not before bothering to reply to you.
| Quote: | Everyone seems to want someone else to sort everything out
The power is in the masses! |
Actually, I'd just like people to not associate my pass-times with thick nutters  . |
I know it is lol, i'd heard of it before but then suddenly it was in the paper about them doing it, probably didn't portray the best image of my email by my post their but it was well worded and did link to various studies etc. to be honest this was when I was working with an alex jones fan who did spout a lot of bollocks which may have rubbed off on me at the time, but i'm still against flurodising water. FFS let people look after themselves, don't force them by poisoning drinking water 
| Quote: | "Oral health is very poor in Leicester, especially among children, and fluoridating supplies would benefit patients."
If primary care trusts do decide it is feasible to fluoridate supplies, there will have to be a public consultation before a final decision.
A spokesman at NHS East Midlands admitted that the national shake-up of NHS services could affect the future of any scheme as it is not yet clear who would take on responsibility for schemes such as fluoridation when strategic health authorities and primary care trusts are disbanded in 2013.
However, the spokesman added: "Until we receive further guidance from the Government, the PCTs in the East Midlands remain committed to progressing with the programme." |
lol here's my email, it's pretty facepalmy looking back to be honest
| Quote: | Flouride is a dangerous chemical that in large amounts of digestion can
cause dental fluorosis, which decays and destroys teeth. Quite the
adverse affect to the benefits. There is a reason mouthwash and
toothpaste has a warning NOT to ingest it, it is a dangerous chemical.
Our water supply should stay as that, water, any additional chemicals
stops it from being water by definition.
I am also aware of experiments in the 1940's by the Nazi's, of the use of
fluoride in contaminating water supplys, they found it caused the
populous to become more submissive to authority and more docile. Do we
really want to be compared with that?
Surely the people in power must be aware of this, and its genuine
adverse effects to health.
There is also research into the build-up of fluoride in bones, that
one's body doesnt jsut flush it out, it actually accumulates.
I'd be very careful about allowing this to happen, there is a lot of
scrutiny about fluoride levels in some areas of the states and i
wouldn't think it to be very wise, especially in these termulous times
of uprising.
And when the general public are being constantly told to drink 5 pints
of water a day, questions have to be asked.
Please fight against this, and remember it's not just the general
public being poisoned, it's your own family.
Yours sincerely,
J.Barclay
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of uprising. "
No wonder they wanted my address 
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| Posted: 14:13 - 16 May 2012 Post subject: Re: e-petitions need more signatures |
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| Posted: 15:49 - 16 May 2012 Post subject: |
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| Alpha-9 wrote: | I know it is lol, i'd heard of it before but then suddenly it was in the paper about them doing it, probably didn't portray the best image of my email by my post their but it was well worded and did link to various studies etc. to be honest this was when I was working with an alex jones fan who did spout a lot of bollocks which may have rubbed off on me at the time, but i'm still against flurodising water. FFS let people look after themselves, don't force them by poisoning drinking water
| Quote: | "Oral health is very poor in Leicester, especially among children, and fluoridating supplies would benefit patients."
If primary care trusts do decide it is feasible to fluoridate supplies, there will have to be a public consultation before a final decision.
A spokesman at NHS East Midlands admitted that the national shake-up of NHS services could affect the future of any scheme as it is not yet clear who would take on responsibility for schemes such as fluoridation when strategic health authorities and primary care trusts are disbanded in 2013.
However, the spokesman added: "Until we receive further guidance from the Government, the PCTs in the East Midlands remain committed to progressing with the programme." |
lol here's my email, it's pretty facepalmy looking back to be honest
| Quote: | Flouride is a dangerous chemical that in large amounts of digestion can
cause dental fluorosis, which decays and destroys teeth. Quite the
adverse affect to the benefits. There is a reason mouthwash and
toothpaste has a warning NOT to ingest it, it is a dangerous chemical.
Our water supply should stay as that, water, any additional chemicals
stops it from being water by definition.
I am also aware of experiments in the 1940's by the Nazi's, of the use of
fluoride in contaminating water supplys, they found it caused the
populous to become more submissive to authority and more docile. Do we
really want to be compared with that?
Surely the people in power must be aware of this, and its genuine
adverse effects to health.
There is also research into the build-up of fluoride in bones, that
one's body doesnt jsut flush it out, it actually accumulates.
I'd be very careful about allowing this to happen, there is a lot of
scrutiny about fluoride levels in some areas of the states and i
wouldn't think it to be very wise, especially in these termulous times
of uprising.
And when the general public are being constantly told to drink 5 pints
of water a day, questions have to be asked.
Please fight against this, and remember it's not just the general
public being poisoned, it's your own family.
Yours sincerely,
J.Barclay
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of uprising. "
No wonder they wanted my address |
I'll say, you come across as a grade-A window licker. Your email contains so much derpery I don't know where to start. It reads like a protracted Youtube comment (harsh, but fair I think). I would have asked for your address just to make sure you weren't living on my street.
And so much for your claims of linking to studies.  |
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| Posted: 16:28 - 16 May 2012 Post subject: |
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I know lol, i'm well aware now
https://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/diseases/fluorosis/en/
It's a real thing
dihydrogen monoxide i've never heard of but seems interesting, thought you were trolling at first as I was always told most the chemicals from nuclear plants are steam and CO2 (perhaps they still are, dunno)
Don't worry, it's embarrassing to read now
I was all rah rah fuck everything when I wrote it and was working cash-in-hand for a guy that followed alex jones and that shit, so some of it rubbed off on me
Key difference? Getting a proper job lol
It's easy to get caught up in conspiracy bollocks when you have the time to
Live and learn 
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| Posted: 18:06 - 16 May 2012 Post subject: |
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As far as I can see, there's only 10 e-petitions in total that have reached the required 100,000 signatures. How many of those have actually changed anything?
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Posted: 20:47 - 16 May 2012  Post subject: |
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| LordShaftesbury wrote: | Dunno, but as I understand it they at least get debated in the House of Commons. When was the last time a motorcycling-related issue had a profile as high as that? |
The current Under Secretary of State for Transport is a member of MAG, and there's an All Party Associate Parliamentary Group for Motorcycling, with 3 Lords, a Viscount, a Doctor, and Ian Paisley Goddamn Junior. The chair, Steve Baker MP, is well up for it and is forever chucking questions around. We're actually doing quite well at the moment.
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Errr, I'm assuming that was a joke.
I'll continue for those who don't realise.
Picture shows cooling towers as if you didn't know.
So that's water vapour being sent out.
That's about as harmless as, say water |
Yes, but there's dihydrogen monoxide released in there! Didn't you read the link above by Rogerborg  .
Particularly interesting is that a lot of the DHMO that studies have shown to be released was actually already in the air - but the physical state is changed due to the way the nuclear power station works! Thus the DHMO is more easily detectable as it rises in to the atmosphere.
This can cause various problems including in some serious cases a localised 'dhmo snow pollution' in certain weather conditions; where it can actually fall as a kind of snow, covering local streets, buildings and fields with a thin layer of this dangerous chemical!
As per the link, a lot of people don't realise how much this chemical has proliferated our environment; I told a house mate about it last night as I was posting in this thread and he wasn't even aware of DHMO. |
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| Posted: 12:04 - 17 May 2012 Post subject: |
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Picture shows cooling towers as if you didn't know.
So that's water vapour being sent out.
That's about as harmless as, say water |
But if, as G says, there's DHMO in there, then it'll combine with the water vapour in the atmosphere and condense out as hydric acid rain. 
| map wrote: |
Then IMHO they're not doing a good job acording to their remit... | Motorcycling All Party Group wrote: | ...To safeguard motorcycling interests by monitoring legislation for matters affecting motorcycling in both the UK and Europe and taking remedial action where necessary;... |
when according the to e-petition EU (Motorcycle) 'Anti-tampering' legislation, this included Art 18 & 52... | E-petition wrote: | ...bikers will not be able to customise their bikes in anyway or use cheaper (still safe & approved) 'after market' parts...
Bikers wil be singled out by the police...
They also propose to ban filtering through traffic...
Banning of motorcycles over 7yrs old in Urban areas.... |
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First, a group of MPs has very little influence over the EU. That's why I emailed my MEPs, rather than my MP. They can, however, work to ensure that our implementation of any crazed Brussels dictats is watered down and not "gold plated" (the parlance de jour).
Funny, I hadn't heard a squeak about the EU prohibiting filtering or banning bikes over 7 years old from urban areas. That'd be France.
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