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Gazz
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PostPosted: 23:19 - 21 May 2012    Post subject: Sachs Madass - Yay or Nay? Reply with quote

Been looking at these bikes recently and was wondering what is everyone elses opinion on them?

They seem cheap enough at only £2000 but was wondering about reliability issues. Apparently it is a German manufacturer who have been going for over 100 years but will they be manufactured in China now on the same production lines as all the other cheap bikes being distributed around the world today? The engines seem to be a wee 4 stroke 125, so should be more reliable than equivalant 2 stroke bikes.

Was just considering one of these for my short jaunt to work and back, of only 7 miles.

Never owned a new bike before and the thought of not having to MOT it for 3 years appeals to me - if it lasts that long. Will be cheap tax and insurance as well.

Does the pros outnumber the cons?
Or should I just stick with trouble-free Hondas?
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 21 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

For anyone who doesn't know what I am talking about; here is a pic:

https://0.tqn.com/d/motorcycles/1/0/Y/y/-/-/sachs_madass_125_fr_3-4.jpg
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 21 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mk1GSF wrote:
I think they look awesome, but there's more chance of me winning the IOM TT on a C90, than me paying £2k for one.


£2000 is only for a brand new one.

There are 2011 registered bikes on ebay for just over £1000.

I know that sounds like a lot of depreciation, but all vehicles drop considerable amount of money as soon as they leave the showroom.
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PostPosted: 23:34 - 21 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not for me. It looks like Mr Dyson had a hand in the design.
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PostPosted: 00:00 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, whilst i like the madass for its unique look thats as far as it goes. I would pay £200 no more....and thats for a new one lol. If your looking for reliable and the budgets £2000 there are lots of options. The sachs is much better off as your mates bike that you admire when you're with him but laugh at him when he's not around. Laughing
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PostPosted: 00:04 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Re: Sachs Madass - Yay or Nay? Reply with quote

It's a 'nice idea', but what you're getting is basically a pitbike, but heavier and generally not that well specced.

For £2k you can get a very good spec pitbike and make it road legal.
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PostPosted: 00:16 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fookin love the look of these Very Happy

Not sure that there's that much difference between performance of most 125s so you're just in it for the looks. So if you like it, what the hell, do eet!
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PostPosted: 00:19 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beelzebob wrote:

Not sure that there's that much difference between performance of most 125s so you're just in it for the looks. So if you like it, what the hell, do eet!

Wikipedia says 56mph - so a good chunk slower. Not much off the weight of a cg125 etc, despite being a fair bit smaller.
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PostPosted: 00:26 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gazz wrote:

I know that sounds like a lot of depreciation, but all vehicles drop considerable amount of money as soon as they leave the showroom.


Oh well that's ok then Shocked

£1000 in depreciation alone to own that for a year seems like a bargain compared to the £0 a much more capable NSR125 would potentially cost Laughing
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PostPosted: 00:37 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wont touch Chinese stuff if my life was connected to using the product.
The country is rife with corruption. What you are buying or think you are buying. Could be a long way from what you get. Once they get corruption sorted. I can see them selling more bike's.
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PostPosted: 00:43 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

John933 wrote:
I wont touch Chinese stuff if my life was connected to using the product.

You do, all the time, I suspect.
The difference is that it has Japanese, European or American quality control and the like.

This bike may well not have, or may not be nearly as good.
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PostPosted: 00:48 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

John933 wrote:
I wont touch Chinese stuff if my life was connected to using the product.
The country is rife with corruption. What you are buying or think you are buying. Could be a long way from what you get. Once they get corruption sorted. I can see them selling more bike's.
John933


Can you speak ordinary english for a change do you reckon? Thanks. Wink
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PostPosted: 07:39 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gazz wrote:
For anyone who doesn't know what I am talking about; here is a pic:

https://0.tqn.com/d/motorcycles/1/0/Y/y/-/-/sachs_madass_125_fr_3-4.jpg



Kill it. Kill it with fire.

That is the most pig-awful looking thing I've seen in a long time. It's not a push bike and it's not a motorbike. It's a school project, isn't it? C'mon, own up - you made that yourself with meccano and lego. Blindfolded.
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PostPosted: 08:03 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

That...

Is...

AWESOME!

Laughing

Btw, AlexW on here owned a Sachs, the XTC125 or whatever it was called - It was in a homosexual yellow colour, the fairings were held on with 2 or 3 bolts, All the bellypan did was to collect the oil that was leaking out of the engine etc etc, still a brilliant bike though - He could get 80 out of it Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 08:08 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it looks brilliant, I'd love to have a play on one.
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PostPosted: 08:33 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

John933 wrote:
I wont touch Chinese stuff if my life was connected to using the product.

You wrote that, and are reading this reply, on a device made in China. I won't even add the usual "probably" caveat.

I wouldn't touch the Sachs as anything other than a 2nd or 3rd bike for strictly urban larks. As a regular commuter, urgh. 8hp, 5 litre tank, 4 speed, 120cc and 56mph, so not even suitable for use as an A2 test bike, it might as well come with L plates as part of the original spec. Thumbs Down

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PostPosted: 08:57 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get an NSR125, pocket a grand, learn alot more, have alot more fun, don't sound like a wet fart.

Or get a £500 cg, do your test, sell cg, have £1500 and buy a big bike.
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PostPosted: 08:57 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

They look awesome, and anyone who says otherwise is a ghey and has the bad aids.
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PostPosted: 09:09 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

truslack wrote:
They look awesome, and anyone who says otherwise is a ghey and has the bad aids.


Shit. I'd better get to the dinner-pusher Doctor, STAT.
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PostPosted: 09:09 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks Dreadful
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PostPosted: 09:23 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd happily have one in the garage - it is wonderful in a 'form follows function' kind of way, and looks perfect for ramp-jumping over the neighbour's kids on the cul-de-sac.
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PostPosted: 09:51 - 22 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tenko wrote:
looks perfect for ramp-jumping over the neighbour's kids on the cul-de-sac.

But in reality of course, again, isn't as good as a pit bike Smile.
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