The Law with helmet Cameras

teuma86 · Scooby Slapper Joined: 16 Sep 2008 Karma :

Hi

I am purchasing a helmet camera. Mainly to film ride outs I attend.

I was just wondering where I stand legally with a Helmet Camera

Say I use it when commuting to and from work.

I know the positive side that the footage can be used in my defence if I am accused of speeding / dangerous riding or an accident.

But do the police have the power to seize the footage to prosecute me?

not that I am planning to ride illegally but we all get a bit carried away and creep above the speed limit now and then.

Could the police stop me and look at the footage to see how fast I went and how long for?

mikester · Trackday Trickster Joined: 04 Mar 2012 Karma :

you can film anywhere. even on private land until you're told not to by the landowner/persons responsible, you must adhere or you will be committing an offence.

Enjoy.

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It's your personal property they can't take it off you unless you post it on YouTube or something silly.
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JoeDougieDoug... · World Chat Champion Joined: 25 Oct 2011 Karma :

I got told that you're not allowed to film whilst going through a McDonald's Drive-Through. No idea how true it is?
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weasley · World Chat Champion Joined: 16 Oct 2010 Karma :

As Roger says, they can only seize it if they believe it contains evidence of a crime; they can't look at it to see if it might contain evidence of a crime - they must have suspicion that a specific crime has taken place and that the camera would have recorded it.

Beyond that, you are free to record in any public place at your whim. If you're on publicly-accessible private land (for example a car park or shopping centre) then the land owners can impose conditions of entry, which might include no photography or filming without consent.
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John933 · Crazy Courier Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Karma :

This is an old chestnut.

The law as I know it is. You don't own your own imagine in this country. In France you do. That why the paper's can take pictures' of anything they like and print them.

Second. If you are asked for the film. Ask for a written statement from the policeman's note book. I have been using one for year's. And in all that time I have never been asked for the film.

I use a bullet camera attached to my helmet. Work's well as you can point the camera in the way you are looking. If for instance someone say's you where not looking. A camera on a helmet will show that you where or where not looking, where you where going.

Video camera's on a bike to my way of thinking is a little God send. If the car driver know's you have film footage of what is going on. You'll find they will give you more respect.

Get one and use it.
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pinkyfloyd · Super Spammer Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Karma :

As above I have a bullet cam on the side of the helmet. Mr's Pinky bought me it for my bday and it does the job.

Its not a hi def one or anything as we have no hi def stuff in the house but the quality is good enough for the rides to work as seen here

Obviously the sound is pretty crap because of the wind.
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Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

I use an MD80 inserted inside the chin of my helmet. Good luck spotting it.
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teuma86 · Scooby Slapper Joined: 16 Sep 2008 Karma :

Well I have ordered the Go Pro HD 2 Motorsport edition.

Just curious if the cops will pull me over on the assumption I was speeding but not clocked the speed then look at video evidence of 10 minutes before hand when the road opened and I might have slipped on the throttle Wink

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Fill the card with Ghostrider onboard footage. Thumbs Up

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Walloper · Super Spammer Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Karma :

Just thought I'd throw this into the soup.

You must declare that you have CCTV around your premises or anything recorded is inadmissible as evidence in court.

https://www.cctv-information.co.uk/i/Data_Protection_Act

"Since the 24th October 2001 it has been a criminal offence to use an unregistered CCTV system to record people in a public or private place unless it meets certain criteria. Bla de bla de bla...."

Why would the same rule not be relevant to anything recorded by an 'Action-Cam'?

You would maybe need to put a sticker on the bike to warn/protect the rights of would-be miscreants that you have CCTV.
Laughing

As was said above, I could ride for hours and hours and possible only notice five minutes of interesting stuff. Loosest term of interesting used.

Evidence in court.... Naff. Just ride properly and remain attentive to tits.
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Pull the memory card out and eat it just to be safe Laughing

I have a Drift HD170, nice bit of kit but the velcro mount is doing my head it. Must have fell off 3 times yesterday. It's much easier to mount it to the handle bars but it's not quite the same. Audio is quite important for action cameras as well, I would invest in an external mic and experiment with it. Going through hours of footage of pure wind noise is no fun. I put mine in my jacket pocket but it's not good enough, next step is to wrap the mic in a sock and see how that goes.
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