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PostPosted: 05:17 - 23 May 2012    Post subject: highways dept||| Reply with quote

just what do these plastic policemen(previously sweeper uppers etc)do on the motorways???what usefull purpose are they with their police lookalike range rovers!!!!The m5 south j8/9 had an incident yesterday...my son and family (two toddlers) stuck on the mway for 41/2 hours!!! Due to a lorry fire they had to do some resurfacing work quick!!Thats fine...but why the f@@@ didnt they stop traffic entering the mway!!!! They could then have started to turn those stuck round and back to the previous junction and off!..Why didnt the police take over seeing the chaos in 75deg.heat???If they have to pick up a tanner from the mway why do they close it???IF traffic is down to 5mph wheres the danger????4 lanes were available to them,.....wheres the common sense gone????......this country is going to hell in a handcart!
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PostPosted: 05:50 - 23 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 06:51 - 23 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

they mean that police dont have to attend MINOR incidents .


give there are idiots out there that will "squeeze" past a police rolling roadblock let alone a traffic womble if they need to close the motorway to enter the carriageway to remove debris then they should absolutely have the right to.

would you rather motorway police tied up with every flat tyre (which they are required to attend unless there is an availible traffic womble.)

They do a job they free up police to attend real incidents and they act on the guidlines se out by the highways agency , if the road was closed for a lorry fire it was closed by the police officer in charge of the incident and not by the traffic wombles as for closing the motorway and directing people back round they will have made a descision probably based on availibility of other patrols to man the junctions they wanted to close , potential cost to public safety of pulling those patrols to close the road, actual gain from those stranded in terms of time required to complete and effective alternative route.
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PostPosted: 07:52 - 23 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

well said Andy.

my best mate used to be a traffic womble, and a bloody hard job they do for the most part. there are some real dickheads on the roads these days, and they have to deal with them, day in, day out.

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PostPosted: 10:02 - 23 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

AndyB1989 wrote:
would you rather motorway police tied up with every flat tyre (which they are required to attend unless there is an availible traffic womble.)

I think that may be the root cause of the problem.
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PostPosted: 10:16 - 23 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Highways job is to attend incidents on the UK motorways to free up the police time.

They close roads when required (mainly from the front of the queue)

They attend broken down vehicles and block the lane with their flashing lights.

They sit up on the side of the road to make other road users slam on their brakes thinking its a cop.

I attended one minor accident involving a car and lorry, no injuries but the lorry driver refused to move till the police attended (although I told him the police will just say sort it out with your insurance)

Police attended, told the truck driver to move to the hard shoulder then Highways turned up and took the drivers reports to be "filed" so the police to go and do other motorists for minor traffic violations and ignoring those who nearly kill us bikers.
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PostPosted: 10:16 - 23 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was an accident on the motorway junction roundabout a bit back. Had to borrow daughter's Vespa to go to work so only 50cc and had L plates. They'd stopped traffic going round the roundabout (it was blocked) but directing traffic onto the motorway (as only exit open).

What a twat. A 50cc moped with L plates onto the motorway. Obviously these people don't have to care about the law or even common sense.

Should I need a career change that I don't have to engage my brain then I may apply. That said because I can think for myself I suspect I'll be vastly over qualified.

So, in summary, no I don't agree with the highways agency patrols Mad As one copper told me it's the thin end of the wedge as far as he was concerned in the move to 'private' policing. They'll be sub-contracting it out next to to likes of Halliburton.
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 23 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing, I would rather see the whole lot of them scrapped and more cops out there, they are fucking useless, all they do is cone shit off.

Car broken down on hard shoulder with hazards on, quickly put out 3 dinky cones and park with our wheels facing into traffiic, this will stop anything from hitting us, for these cones are like forcefields.

I have never seen them actually be useful, coming back from France a few years back I had a falling out with one or two, lorry turned over, just after a junction M5 blocked, they are sat there doing fuck all, recovery truck is stuck up on the bridge and can't get through down the slip road as they are blocked by cars, not one of them thought, "well considering we have blocked that slipped road off before the accident so no one can get off, why don't we just send the recovery truck down the wrong way then cut up the empty hardshoulder"

Seriously they didn't even think about that, they were trying to file traffic through to clear the way for recovery truck.

Sorry but get rid of them and put more police out there, waste of time waste of money, they are not allowed to do anything, you have a flat tyre they just put some cones around you, seriously what are they achieving by doing this? We managed before these people to change a tyre on a motorway or break down without the need for cones, and you constantly see them pulled up with their wheels facing back onto the motorway.

We managed before without them, all they do is cone shit off and cause chaos, get rid of them we have no need to them.
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 23 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The logic behind the wheels turning is so IF a vehicle hits them from behind, their vehicle does not go straight into them while they sit around with the "stranded" vehicle.

BUT....

On this logic. turn the wheels to face the field / woods normally to the LEFT of the hard shoulder, else IF they do get hit from behind, their vehicle will end up in LIVE traffic on the motorway, causing further accidents.

PLUS the speed traffic goes by, if its enough to move their vehicle with the hand brake applied, then their vehicle will most likely go straight for a bit, regardless of the wheel direction.
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 23 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

teuma86 wrote:
The logic behind the wheels turning is so IF a vehicle hits them from behind, their vehicle does not go straight into them while they sit around with the "stranded" vehicle.

BUT....

On this logic. turn the wheels to face the field / woods normally to the LEFT of the hard shoulder, else IF they do get hit from behind, their vehicle will end up in LIVE traffic on the motorway, causing further accidents.

PLUS the speed traffic goes by, if its enough to move their vehicle with the hand brake applied, then their vehicle will most likely go straight for a bit, regardless of the wheel direction.

I am fully aware of the logic surrounding the wheel turning, you turn your wheels left to face off the motorway so if you do get punted from behind your car goes into a verge, not the live motorway, like what will happen because they point their wheels into the motorway, but besides that, their cones should stop all this, right? Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: 13:27 - 23 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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