No garage

[newnewnew]

I plan on buying a suzuki gsxr 600 but the thing is, where I live is just off a main road with no garage or drive.

I live in a end of terrace house, with a small side walk between me and the neighbours.

It occured to me that owning a bike of value and living in this situation would be risky. Would I be prone to theft of the bike even with data-tool immobiliser and alarm?

I REALLY want and need one but if its just going to get nicked, whats the point. How many of you guys don't have garages?

Opinions on this/ security etc would be grateful.
Thanks, Lee

[Benson_JV]

Nothing can prevent your bike getting nicked if the theif wants it enough. Is there any way of getting it into your back garden?

I don't have a garage, although my communal carpark is a 1/2 mile up a dirt track, quite out of the way. I still don't trust it.
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[ttr]

The answer is that it depends on your area.

I'm in a terraced student house at the moment. No garage, and the neighbours get pissy if I park on the road (tiny little dead ender with four thousand cars shared between like six houses).

I chuck it on the pavement out front (under my bedroom window, actually!), and it's no problem at all.

But then I'm in Winchester, and crime doesn't really exist here.
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[angryjonny]

A garage isn't the be-all and end-all of security; garages are easily broken into and the more security features you add the more it shouts "there's something interesting in here". But, what it does do it keep the bike out of sight. That's the important thing - if your bike is out on the street broadcasting its presence every night then it's not a question of if it gets stolen but when.

However, if you do have to have a bike parked on the street, for the love of God put a cover on it. That way Joe Asbo doesn't know whether it's a nail of a GPZ or a Desmo underneath it. And even if he does decide he wants what's under there, he has no idea about how to go about nicking it until he lifts the cover. Is it immobilised, is it chained, are there 10 disk locks on it? Without a cover he can stand across the street sizing it up. With a cover on it he doesn't know a thing about it until he begins tampering, drawing attention to himself in the process. Psychologically it's potentially a bigger deterrant than an easily-cropped chain.

[Joncrete Cungle]

I have a similar situation when staying at my girlfriends, terrace house in a less salubrious part of town. Having had one bike stolen from there over night I now use a 19mm pragamsis chain and a large Abloy 362 padlock through the back wheel & frame chained to the lamp post outside. A smaller chain & padlock through the front wheel, yokes and cover. Odd time I stick a disc lock on as well for good measure, that will teach em.

Touch wood so far scrotes have only lifted the cover off the back wheel & seat, seen the extra large chain & padlock and given up there and then.

[newnewnew]

Thanks for the feedback guys,

The bike cover is a big MUST HAVE - as angryjonny said - if its covered up they don't have a clue what type of bike is under it.

I will ensure under that cover the bike has on it oxford monster chain - disc lock plus the alarm and immobiliser. Plus the area is well lighted - in fact as soon as you step near the house the porch light beams out on you.

thanks again for the comments - much appreciated.

[angryjonny]

[angryjonny]

[Joncrete Cungle]

[killa]

I moved to my girlfriends house recently, after accessing the movements of the scummers with no employment, I’m considering keeping my TLR at my parents permanently.
My missus has a GP100 outside under a cover, some scrotes nicked the cover twice but didn’t muck around with the bike at all. No idea why, they just wanted the cover.
In my opinion, you may have several months without incident, the one time you do, whether it be theft or just petty damage, you’ll kick yourself. I don’t know, i just can’t trust my pride and joy, even covered, being out on a busy street, people parking all the time and opportunists coming to have a peek.
At my last flat, my corridor was so large i could get my ZX7 through the door and still pass the bike to my flat. Was better than a garage in some ways.
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[HJM]

Dont waste your money on oxford security. Almax is the way to go with a chain!

Have you considered taking the bike indoors? how wide is your doorway, do you have space ect? Obv its an inconvenience but its better then a garage!
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[Knacker]

If they really want it they will get it regardless of security, the only thing you can do is put them off/ make it difficult.
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[ninja_butler]

Is there a garden? Any kind of OFF road storage area? You can use a ground anchor or wall anchor to pretty firmly secure the bike but you also have to deal with vandals and thieves who will remove valuable parts from the bike in situ and leave the frame.

[mentalboy]

Any garaging close by? I know it won't stop the scroats stealing her but they're great for keeping the great British weather off all those lovely shiny bits.
My in-laws managed to chat to a little old lady up the road from them and come to an arrangement for using her unused garage- you'd be surprised how many folks out there have got one and don't use it.
Always worth a look around to find some kind of storage at the very worst you'll just be told to sling your hook (helps if you don't look like Ogri!) Good luck
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[newnewnew]

I have a really narrow site path between me and the neighbour with a gate to the garden but its very tight. I can just about get my push bike to turn into the garden on full handle bar lock, i somehow doubt a motorcycle the size of GSXR would make it any easier.

Will give the council a ring in a bit to see if they have any garages. I cross the mail road a few other bikes have their bikes parked outside sometimes covered sometimes not. If i spot one next time i will ask if they have had any problems but considering the type of bike they have i somehow doubt they will be on the top of the theft list.

thanks for the head up on the oxford chain - in the bin it goes!

I also will take a few pics to show the area i have to work within.

Lee

[EXC-Rider]

how big is your door ? my dads friend keeps his cbr in his house, made a nice ramp to get the bike in and out,
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[bunglehaze]

I am in a similar position, mid terrace with a slim alleyway and a sharp right turn at the end into my yard.

Necessity kicked in a while back so I had to start using the yard for the bike and as a result had to learn how to get the bike down the alley in both directions, the angle is difficult but I just ride down and make my turn.

Do you have an outside loo or outbuilding on the end of the house or do you have a decent bit of room to turn into at the end? I knocked my outside loo down and put in a double gate, it is that which makes it all possible in my situation.

As it is now I have recently put up an 8'x6' double door shed as a garage, the right turn back into my yard is even more tricky with an immediate left into the garage but it makes nicking the bike a whole lot more difficult.

HTH
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[newnewnew]

The right turn at the end of the path is really tight - I have got a image from google maps showing the area i have to work with.

[Benson_JV]

I would take that down if I were you, don't show pictures of your house & where you're hiding your bike!
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[Knacker]

[EXC-Rider]

so....... just out of interest. whats your post code ?
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[Rogerborg]

Withdraw the cost of the bike in cash.

Put cash in a large clear plastic box.

Put box where the bike will be.

Stand back a bit, ponder box of cash.

Tailor your security appropriately.
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[bunglehaze]

[G]

How about making a little lean-to shed under the window next to the front door?

Also consider going for a tattier bike that won't draw so much attention - if it's fairings are already knackered and there's scratches on the tank it's less likely to be nicked to be destined to be broken.

Definitely look at some kind of ground or wall anchor.

[P.]

It would be on the path outside my front door with a ground anchor and almax, alarmed with whatever comes with it AND a cyclone alarm wired direct to battery.

THEN I'd cover it.