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 Posted: 12:36 - 26 May 2012  Post subject: Helmet sale..from £20 |
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Not sure I'd trust a £20 helmet, though a 4 star sharp rating seems confidence inspiring 
The sun has baked my head, apologies, here. https://www.lidsdirect.co.uk/clearance-sale/clearance-helmets.html
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If it has a fine rating and FITS, then will do A job ... 
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I was talking to a guy yesterday who had the same helmet as me previously in a bad crash (HJC - £100) and the whole thing shattered. He fractured his eye socket and skull. The helmet literally split in two. He's now got a scar on his face for the rest of his life. He spent 4 days in intensive care. He Still rides, (insane or brave not sure.)
The crash was SEVERE impact to his head, but even so....
This whole safety level standard thing is bullshit, the mimiumum requirements for a helmet to pass doesn't mean your head won't get fucked, the difference between impact stability from an HJC to something like an arai is unmeasurable.
You can get helmets on ebay for £50 that are legal, but they're not gonna protect you for shit for anything more then a little bump. Invest in something decent.... seriously, seeing those pictures of his crash it really opened my eyes.
You can totally anihilate your hand or ankle, but your head....  |
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| Andy J wrote: | I was talking to a guy yesterday who had the same helmet as me previously in a bad crash (HJC - £100) and the whole thing shattered. He fractured his eye socket and skull. The helmet literally split in two. He's now got a scar on his face for the rest of his life. He spent 4 days in intensive care. He Still rides, (insane or brave not sure.)
The crash was SEVERE impact to his head, but even so....
This whole safety level standard thing is bullshit, the mimiumum requirements for a helmet to pass doesn't mean your head won't get fucked, the difference between impact stability from an HJC to something like an arai is unmeasurable.
You can get helmets on ebay for £50 that are legal, but they're not gonna protect you for shit for anything more then a little bump. Invest in something decent.... seriously, seeing those pictures of his crash it really opened my eyes.
You can totally anihilate your hand or ankle, but your head.... |
Check out a helmet's rating here before worrying about it being too cheap:
https://sharp.direct.gov.uk/
Regarding the split HJC helmet, it's purpose is to absorb as much energy as possible - he survived a "severe" impact to his head and survived, albeit somewhat battered - IMO the helmet did its job.
It's like a crumple zone on a car, it gets trashed/split/torn apart but that's part of the design - absorb as much of the impact as possible.
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| Posted: 13:59 - 26 May 2012 Post subject: |
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helmets are in a clearence sale dosen't really mean they are shit helmets.
first one being £90 reduced to £20 is pretty good, im half tempted to grab one
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| Andy J wrote: | I was talking to a guy yesterday who had the same helmet as me previously in a bad crash (HJC - £100) and the whole thing shattered. He fractured his eye socket and skull. The helmet literally split in two. He's now got a scar on his face for the rest of his life. He spent 4 days in intensive care. He Still rides, (insane or brave not sure.)
The crash was SEVERE impact to his head, but even so....
This whole safety level standard thing is bullshit, the mimiumum requirements for a helmet to pass doesn't mean your head won't get fucked, the difference between impact stability from an HJC to something like an arai is unmeasurable.
You can get helmets on ebay for £50 that are legal, but they're not gonna protect you for shit for anything more then a little bump. Invest in something decent.... seriously, seeing those pictures of his crash it really opened my eyes.
You can totally anihilate your hand or ankle, but your head.... |
LolWut?
if the Sharp ratings are equal and helmet A costs £50 and helmet B costs £450, the only benefits the expensive helmet is going to get is the added features, better venting, better cushioning, lighter(none of which helps in a collision)...ect, dont write of a helmet due to its brand/price tag, thats just silly.
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| Andy J wrote: | I was talking to a guy yesterday who had the same helmet as me previously in a bad crash (HJC - £100) and the whole thing shattered. He fractured his eye socket and skull. The helmet literally split in two. He's now got a scar on his face for the rest of his life. He spent 4 days in intensive care. He Still rides, (insane or brave not sure.)
The crash was SEVERE impact to his head, but even so....
This whole safety level standard thing is bullshit, the mimiumum requirements for a helmet to pass doesn't mean your head won't get fucked, the difference between impact stability from an HJC to something like an arai is unmeasurable.
You can get helmets on ebay for £50 that are legal, but they're not gonna protect you for shit for anything more then a little bump. Invest in something decent.... seriously, seeing those pictures of his crash it really opened my eyes.
You can totally anihilate your hand or ankle, but your head.... |
tl;dr translation: "I paid too much for my helmet."
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Check out a helmet's rating here before worrying about it being too cheap:
https://sharp.direct.gov.uk/
Regarding the split HJC helmet, it's purpose is to absorb as much energy as possible - he survived a "severe" impact to his head and survived, albeit somewhat battered - IMO the helmet did its job.
It's like a crumple zone on a car, it gets trashed/split/torn apart but that's part of the design - absorb as much of the impact as possible. |
Well said and spot on!!!
There are some £500+ helmets I would not give house space to, and under EC22/05 they all have to be of a minimum standard, and to be honest, the Sharp ratings lost credibility very quickly after its introduction because of the way some of the helmets were tested.
If the impact is hard enough, the helmet will be destroyed and/or the rider will be dead!!!
Fit is primary importance, cost, secondary, and unlike some countries where standards are shall we say questionable, the standard of helmets sold here in the UK all exceed minimum requirements.
As has been said many times, a £20 helmet that fits well will afford far better protection than a £400 hat that fits badly, and I work with quite a number of the factories (not importers but the manufacturers) where I have seen the research that goes into ensuring that helmets do the job they are designed to do, but they are only designed to protect you once!!!
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| Posted: 15:42 - 26 May 2012 Post subject: |
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My helmet split in 2 when I had a crash.
Quite a bad one too... but hey, my head was the first thing to hit the floor, after my ribs and legs hit an oncoming car |
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| Andy J wrote: | the difference between impact stability from an HJC to something like an arai is unmeasurable. |
What's impact "stability"? This is a serious subject, you don't get points for making up terms.
I'm sorry to hear about your mate, but it doesn't give you any particular insight into helmets. If anything, you've got exactly the wrong impression of what's important.
Arai helmets are mostly mediocre for impact protection, by the way.
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I just bought two HJC CS-12N Sessions @ £20 each and a Box BZ1 for £39, with my families current prediliction for throwing ourselves off our bikes we should be able to give you a report shortly on helmet functionality.
HJC CS-12N
https://sharp.direct.gov.uk/testsratings/hjc-cs-12n
BOX BZ1
https://sharp.direct.gov.uk/testsratings/box-bz1
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| arry wrote: | | hahadumball wrote: |
first one being £90 reduced to £20 is pretty good, im half tempted to grab one |
If you've got a head the size of a camel's hump go for it; they're XXL or something only in the sale 
I do have the CS12 which I paid ~£90 for some years back, it's a fairly ok lid, the vent has broken and it's a bit on the heavy side, but it's not half bad. |
That's funny, because that's exactly the shape of my head. 
Actually XXL may not be enough.
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