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duncanpage
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 27 May 2012    Post subject: ZX9R wont get to 100mph or pull above 7,500rpm HELP PLEASE Reply with quote

Hi all

I have just got myself a 1999 ZX9r and on the way home from collecting it, the bike felt quite rough when I fully opened the throttle in top gear below 3,000 rpm.

Having ridden it today I've noticed it won't go over 7,500rpm and wont go above 100mph.

The bike came with receipts for a Dyno-Jet kit and has a dyno readout.
It also came with a spare set of carbs.
The previous owner never mentioned it being restricted but he only had it 4 months. He MOT'd it and then sold it on.

I've cleaned out the K&N air-filter and noticed that the two rubber plugs were missing from the air-box. I've replaced these but it doesn't seem to have made much of a difference if anything at all.

If the bike is restricted what should I be looking for and where?

I've got my full license and am 28 years old so I don't want to be riding a restricted zx9r Sad

Please help me!
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cb1rocket
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 27 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

probably some washers between the carbs and intake manifold.

If not getting to 100mph then it def sounds restricted
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PostPosted: 19:45 - 27 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

AFAIK the restriction will be under the carbs, the carbs will need pulling off.

Sorry that i cant be more help.
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 27 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

will it go over 7.5k in the lower gears?
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 27 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

cb1rocket wrote:
will it go over 7.5k in the lower gears?


No, it won't pull above that in any gear
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 27 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

33hp ZX9R... rip the carbs off, there should be washers either between the carb and engine or you'll have a restriction in the slides area.

It will shoot past that speed no worries after Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:09 - 27 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone.

I'll rip the carbs off first thing tomorrow and have a look.

Does a dyno-jet kit have any significant markings?
If the other set of carbs that the previous owner gave me with the bike has a dyno-jet kit fitted will I be able to tell from looking at them or will it have to be stripped apart?
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 27 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

parts are inside, will involve stripping the carbs

I'm surprised the bike doesn't rev past 7.5k in the lower gears......not even in 3rd?
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 27 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

cb1rocket wrote:
parts are inside, will involve stripping the carbs

I'm surprised the bike doesn't rev past 7.5k in the lower gears......not even in 3rd?


The restriction washers have such a narrow hole that wont allow you to rev out past that point. It physically can't feed enough into the cylinder.
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 27 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

cb1rocket wrote:
parts are inside, will involve stripping the carbs

I'm surprised the bike doesn't rev past 7.5k in the lower gears......not even in 3rd?


I can't be 100% certain as I was concentrating on not coming off the twisty road as it's a new bike to me, but I'm pretty sure it won't rev above that in any gear.
It will rev all the way to the red line on the paddock stand when not in gear but my dad said that's because it's not under load.
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cb1rocket
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 27 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmmm

on the other hand while being polite ( Wink ) don't rev it up to red in neutral - best way to wreck an engine!
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PostPosted: 20:30 - 27 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You dad is quite right, with no load on it there's no need for a lot of fuel/air to spin it up. Revving out an engine with no load on it is a good way of throwing a rod so best cut that out if you want it to last.
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 27 May 2012    Post subject: Re: ZX9R wont get to 100mph or pull above 7,500rpm HELP PLEA Reply with quote

There's a RAM air tube that goes from the two main air ducts at the front to carbs I think (though may be airbox). When I had it disconnected because I didn't have the main tubes (no fairings) and it generally ran pretty badly.
Reconnecting the main ducts and ram air tube sorted it.
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 27 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
cb1rocket wrote:
parts are inside, will involve stripping the carbs

I'm surprised the bike doesn't rev past 7.5k in the lower gears......not even in 3rd?


The restriction washers have such a narrow hole that wont allow you to rev out past that point. It physically can't feed enough into the cylinder.
Hmm. My ZZR6 won't go past 100mph, but will happily rev all the way to the 14K redline in first to 50mph.

Thoughts on the matter?
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 27 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

moppy wrote:
Hmm. My ZZR6 won't go past 100mph, but will happily rev all the way to the 14K redline in first to 50mph.

Thoughts on the matter?


As it's a 600 it'll be sucking less volume in, so it should still rev as the area of the inlet will be less.
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 27 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

My FZR600R is 33bhp and it definitely does use the full rev range. You can just tell that after about 7k that there isn't anymore power to be had but the revs do still rise very slowly in 6th gear.

As moppy said 50mph can be had in first gear still.
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PostPosted: 16:55 - 28 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi everyone.

Thanks all for your help.

The bike is now cured but it wasn't carb diaphrams.

I stripped the carbs off the bike but couldn't find anything that resembled a restrictor kit until I compared the jets to the spare set of carbs I was given when I bought the bike.
It seems like each carb has 2 jets? I'm just guessing by the way! But on the spare set of carbs the holes were the same sizes, on the set that was fitted to the bike the inner jets were smaller.
Having swapped the carbs over, the bike revs all the way through the range and pulls like a train!
I haven't taken it onto a road suitable to test it properly yet (only a quick blast down the Alfreston Road) but it definitely gets above 100mph now! Laughing

The bike is a little lumpy on tickover but I'm hoping to balance the carbs before the end of the week.
At least I won't have to pray hard before trying to over take anything now!

Thanks again for all your suggestions
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