Anyone source/use blue daytime lights?

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I have been thinking of adding some LED daytime lights to the bike for more visibility (as in to be seen, not to see by). Something like this (click link) from eBay. Just intend to splice into the sidelight bulb wires.

However, I was also thinking that blue would be more visible. Contrary to popular belief it is not illegal to show a blue light at the front providing it is a steady light and doesn't resemble a special lamp or beacon.

However, can't find a source for these. Can find blue leds obviously but none packed for external weatherproof use suitable for motorcycle. Any help appreciated. Thanks.
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[Paulington]

Is it worth the effort?

I know the law says that no blue light that resembles a warning beacon or whatever may be fitted, but is it really worth the effort of having a copper drive past you, notice it and decide that it DOES look like a warning beacon and happens to want to do something about it?

If you are doing it for safety, you'd be MUCH better off getting a bright green light as the human eye is much more sensitive to light of the green variety, around ~550nm and it is much less sensitive to blue (~445nm) light. Admittedly in near total darkness it's different but driving on the road is not near total darkness.

As far as I know there is no law saying a green light isn't allowed, so for safety I'd say that's the best due to it being the colour the eye is most receptive to.

Other than that, just go with white I guess? On my bike I just have dipped beam on as that seems to be good enough although I do always have LED running lights on when in the car.

Cheers!
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[Walloper]

Maplin have sets of led all colours. Cheap as.
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[Kwaks]

When being followed by cars that have those headlights that look blue from an angle the vibrations in the mirrors make them seem to flash like a police vehicle. I would prob have words with a biker doing the same.
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[Walloper]

I've been reminded that my headlight is on by police a couple of times.
One even asked why only one light was working.
I courteously explained.
I call it 'Helping police with their enquiries.'

HID Xenon lamps can shine blue if the lens is dirty. Something about refraction.
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[Alpha-9]

HID Xenon lamps come in blue, i was looking at them then decided I generally hate cunts that have coloured lights, they piss my eyes off

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=HID+Xenon++blue&_sacat=See-All-Categories
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[angryjonny]

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Apology for posting in what might be considered an old thead (1 month) but I thought I'd share some email correspondence with Norfolk Police on the subject of blue lights...

[scorps]

I once attached one of those blue flashing tyre flies to to top of the helmet on my toy mr Plod and had it sat on my pillion seat tie wrapped to the grab rail on the bandit and got stopped by a real police officer.

he informed me it was one of the funniest accessorys he'd seen and then buggered off. Someone ended up stealing mr plod
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[keggyhander]

Green lights illegal?

Good!

My bike has them recessed all over. It's like a fucking green ghost at night.

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[sickpup]

[c-m]

Why would you bother fitting these when you already have a side light and dipped beam, both likely to produce more light than these.
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[Andrew122]

This is what I would make of it all.

Regulation 16
No vehicle, other than an emergency vehicle [ or a vehicle used for special forces purposes] 1 , shall be fitted with–
(a) a blue warning beacon or special warning lamp, or
(b) a device which resembles a blue warning beacon or a special warning lamp, whether the same is in working order or not.

The interpretation section of the Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations defines "warning beacon" as:

"A lamp that is capable of emitting a flashing or rotating beam of light throughout 360° in the horizontal plane."

The same section defines "special warning lamp" as:

"A lamp, fitted to the front or rear of a vehicle, capable of emitting a blue flashing light and not any other kind of light."

We know that anything resembling either one of these will be in contravention of the Regulations. A constant blue light will not, in itself, appear to be prohibited. It could be argued that blue sidelights or headlights are capable of emitting a flashing beam of light if there is something as simple as an on/off switch. I know...what idiot is going to sit there playing cops and robbers whilst flashing his sidelights on and off?

There are a few interesting points which would alter the interpretation a court would apply to the Regulation.

1) The draftsman of the legislation has chosen in another section to specifically prohibit the showing of any red light at the front of a vehicle. The courts would potentially see the absence of any direct prohibition of blue lights as an implication that blue lights, on their own, were not intended to be prohibited.

2) In the same section, it is directed that ANY colour showing at the back other than red will be prohibited, unless one of the exceptions apply.

3) The restrictive way in which regulation 16 is worded: Had it been intended that all blue lights be prohibited, this would no doubt have been stated. Instead, regulation 16 is careful to prohibit only blue lights resembling warning beacons.

There are no relevant cases on this. The only one I could find discussed the issue of whether a "warning beacon" which was not plugged in was enough to constitute the offence. It was.

I would argue that constant blue lights fitted to the front of a vehicle should not cause a problem legally. But as I have pointed out, an on/off switch could be enough to fuel an argument that they are capable of resembling a warning lamp. Nobody will really know unless this comes to court. Tread carefully.

I need a cup of tea after that.
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[tatfan]

Legal or not, a good place to check out is https://www.bikevis.com/
They do 'bullet' lights in blue white and red, and other types aswell.
I have nothing to do with them, I'm just a satisfied customer.