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Faldo
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 10 Jun 2012    Post subject: Tell me about the Yamaha Thunderace/Triumph Sprint Reply with quote

I'm going to be getting a bike again after a 3 year absence from riding.

I'm looking at sports bikes that can tour for around 1200 quid or less. The bike will be used mostly at weekends and to do a bit of European touring.

Having owned plenty of Kawasaki sports bikes I'm looking at the usual ZXR 750, ZX7R and 9R, but I could well end up buying a Thunderace or maybe a Triumph Sprint ST/RS, maybe a T595.

I've never owned a Yamaha or Triumph before. I've never bothered with a Yamaha as I always perceive them as gearbox-eaters, are the Thunderaces particularly vulnerable in that respect? Any other issues?

As for the Triumph, I've never really thought of them before, but I think a triple would suit me quite well. I know nothing of Triumph reliability, are there many known issues?

Any advice/other recommendations welcome.

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PostPosted: 21:32 - 10 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uncle has a Sprint with nearly 60k on it. Solid bike, nice engine, comfy ride.

No idea about the Thunderace.
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 10 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Thunderace engine is pretty much the FZR1000 engine, and closely related to the FZ750. Gearbox on them seems to be pretty tough. Possible problem is the bearing behind the front sprocket which can be damaged by running the chain too tight, which means a complete engine strip to replace the bearing. Valves rarely need touching.

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PostPosted: 21:59 - 10 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks chaps.

I pretty much know what I'll be getting with the Thunderace, but what are the Sprints like when doing semi-quick B road blasting or on the motorway?
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 10 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got my thunderace at 47k, its at 54k now and I've had no problems with it. I did the valve clearences recently and they were all fine. I would recommend it.

There 5 speed and burn a little oil but the oil is float rather than pressure.

I'm on my second set of tyres. Pilot road, rear lasted 6k, front is still going. The pair cost £150.

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PostPosted: 22:17 - 10 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 1999-2005 Triumph fuel injected triples are all ridiculously over engineered and immensely reliable. A mate of mine still owns the 1998 Daytona 955i that I had back in 2002 and it still looks the same as the day I bought it, still rides like it did when I had it and has done 35k miles. Only reliability issue it has is with the Datatool Veto Evo alarm that it has.

The Sprint RS and Sprint ST are heavier and not as exciting to ride, but are very very comfortable. The Daytona 955i is on a par with the Thunderace for comfort IMO.

I'm not sure about the prices on Thunderaces, but I know they only have a 5 speed gearbox, whereas the 955i has six. really really nice near mint 955i's seem to change hands for around the £1500-£2000 mark which is a huge amount of bike for the money.

Here's a 2003 mint looking 147bhp 955i on ebay for £2500

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-TRIUMPH-DAYTONA-955I-SS-RED-SUPER-BIKE-/390313932880?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item5ae085f850

That is an awesome awesome bike for the money. They really are a performance bargain right now.
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 10 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Nick, didn't know they're only 5 speed to be honest, not that it makes a great deal off difference I suppose.

Cheers for the Triumph info Marjay, they do really appeal to me, can't believe I've never thought of having one before Doh! .
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 10 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Faldo wrote:
Cheers Nick, didn't know they're only 5 speed to be honest, not that it makes a great deal off difference I suppose.

Cheers for the Triumph info Marjay, they do really appeal to me, can't believe I've never thought of having one before Doh! .


As for the 5 speed gearbox... My Buell had one and it made motorway speeds a bit annoying. Not sure about the effect on the Thunderace but I would imagine you'd get some sort of trade off.
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PostPosted: 19:08 - 11 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Faldo wrote:
Cheers Nick, didn't know they're only 5 speed to be honest, not that it makes a great deal off difference I suppose.


If you feel like it you could probably lob in the gearbox from the FZ750 or YZF750. They switched to a 5 speed box for the 1000 engine as it should be tougher (but the gearbox wasn't really an issue on the FZ750 - might be the first thing to go but expect that to be after around 100k).

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PostPosted: 21:14 - 11 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can forgive it's ugliness the Sprint RS is a rather nice bike to ride, easy going, utterly stable, sensible gearing and plenty of torque Thumbs Up

A workmates had one for 35k miles and from memory the only issue in that time was I think an alternator failure? The finish isn't especially great on the fasteners and fairing fittings mind.
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 11 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

A friend of mine is looking to sell his. Wanting about a grand. (1999 955i)
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Blue_SV650S wrote: it was a sh1te wheelie, but it proves that he can get it up in 3rd and can do angles. In summery, mattsprattuk is a gobby little sh1tebag, dopehead tw4t, but sadly for all of us, he probably isn't THAT full of sh1te!! Mr. Green
Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 11 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raph's ex?
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 11 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The very same

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PostPosted: 23:13 - 11 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sprint ST of that time is a big wallowy old beast. Can be ridden fast if you change direction slowly. Overwork the suspension and it can get bouncy. Great mile muncher but definately no sports bike. Engine is big and agricultural, and gear change solid or clunky depending on your viewpoint. Clutch and throttle are relatively heavy compared to Jap stuff. Great for top gear roll ons and mile munching though.
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