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Bike Bunker
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 11 Jun 2012    Post subject: Motorcycle tyre changer/bead breaker/wheel balancing. Reply with quote

Any body know any cheap easy to use manual tyre changer's ect ? looked at some on flea-bay but they are like £70 which makes me think they might be as good as using a stanley knife
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PostPosted: 21:07 - 11 Jun 2012    Post subject: Re: Motorcycle tyre changer/bead breaker/wheel balancing. Reply with quote

Ash Mash wrote:
Any body know any cheap easy to use manual tyre changer's ect ? looked at some on flea-bay but they are like £70 which makes me think they might be as good as using a stanley knife


A stanley knife wouldn't get through the reinforced bead and would make removing the remains a total pita.

How many tyres do you need to change?

If it is just the odd one or two then a 2x4 bead breaker will do the trick - either that or a large C clamp or a vice will work too. Tyre levers and rim protectors are cheap. I made a tyre balancer using two axle stands, some bits of scrap steel and some small bearings - they cost me about £3 to make (i.e. to buy the bearings) and it works well. For seating the beads, I had no problem doing it with a foot pump.


I just changed a pair of sports bike tyres using the above set of equipment - total cost of less than £15.

The worst part is removing/refitting the wheels. The actual tyre changing itself is a piece of piss.
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 11 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bead break with a car, drive over the tyre.
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 11 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not just give a tyre chap a tenner to change tyre and balance? At least that will take away the uncertainty of doing it right as tyre chap will have a proper balancing machine. For me to change my own tyre is just too much hassle.

Obviously you will need to find a fitter that you trust.
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PostPosted: 22:53 - 11 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I break the beads by using a SDS drill that is set to hammer mode with a 40mm flat chisel attached.
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 11 Jun 2012    Post subject: Re: Motorcycle tyre changer/bead breaker/wheel balancing. Reply with quote

DonnyBrago wrote:
Ash Mash wrote:
Any body know any cheap easy to use manual tyre changer's ect ? looked at some on flea-bay but they are like £70 which makes me think they might be as good as using a stanley knife


A stanley knife wouldn't get through the reinforced bead and would make removing the remains a total pita.

How many tyres do you need to change?

If it is just the odd one or two then a 2x4 bead breaker will do the trick - either that or a large C clamp or a vice will work too. Tyre levers and rim protectors are cheap. I made a tyre balancer using two axle stands, some bits of scrap steel and some small bearings - they cost me about £3 to make (i.e. to buy the bearings) and it works well. For seating the beads, I had no problem doing it with a foot pump.


I just changed a pair of sports bike tyres using the above set of equipment - total cost of less than £15.

The worst part is removing/refitting the wheels. The actual tyre changing itself is a piece of piss.



its going to be used daily, in a workshop after looking into it more abba seems to have amazing reviews and there products do look good, only thing is i cannot afford the big £1500 kits so i want the small one plus its much easier to move and abba does an entire kit for £170
https://www.abbastands.co.uk/product_details.asp?id=38
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 12 Jun 2012    Post subject: Re: Motorcycle tyre changer/bead breaker/wheel balancing. Reply with quote

I wouldn't do a manual tyre change every day.

It's not difficult but it does take time which if you are doing it for a living doesn't make sense to waste on something low profit like tyres. Not to mention liability reasons if you fuck it up or damage a wheel with a lever.


Run the wheels down to a tyre place. Spending hours each day to save £10 a wheel is really daft.

To put it another way £1500 = 150 tyres at £10 each. If you are doing them everyday it'll pay for itself in a few months.


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PostPosted: 11:24 - 12 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think it was Pete I say with an awesome tyre changing tool. Could possibly make one for around £30....unsure though.

Took probably... a minute to get it off Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:41 - 12 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You would get tired doing it manually. Embarassed
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PostPosted: 14:15 - 12 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are doing it daily it will be a complete pain in the arse.
As already said, there is bugger all profit in tyres but it is a good way to pull in other work.

If you look around you can pick up decent kit for reasonable prices.
I got my tyre changing machine for silly money just by asking around tyre fitting places.

Balancers - either shell out big money for an electronic jobby or use a manual one.
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 12 Jun 2012    Post subject: Re: Motorcycle tyre changer/bead breaker/wheel balancing. Reply with quote

Ash Mash wrote:
its going to be used daily, in a workshop after looking into it more abba seems to have amazing reviews and there products do look good, only thing is i cannot afford the big £1500 kits so i want the small one plus its much easier to move and abba does an entire kit for £170
https://www.abbastands.co.uk/product_details.asp?id=38


You can get new tyre machines from around £800 and second hand from around £300. If you are lucky bike specific ones pop up for around the £150 mark. My first tyre machine cost me £70 and my latest, a Butler superbike cost me £150. Stop wasting your time pissing about with amateur gear and get a proper piece of kit.
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PostPosted: 16:35 - 12 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STWN-Motorcycle-portable-wheel-balancer-Machined-Axle-/310330304683?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item484120a8ab#ht_2378wt_1270

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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mechanics-Workshop-Garage-Motorcycle-Tyre-Bead-Breaker-Motorbike-Tyre-Changer-/110831523119?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item19ce12d52f

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PostPosted: 20:34 - 12 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Incidentally i would always change tyres on magnesium wheels by hand only using the machines bead breaker. The bigger the tyre the easier it is to fit by hand. 150 section and larger tyres are easy, when you get to 180's you can pretty much fit them by hand with no tools needing them only for removal.

Hand changing tyres with a tube unless you've had lots of practice and have a ready supply of tyre dust is likely to end up with nipped tubes but is easy on a tyre machine.
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