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 Bojje Renault 5 Driver
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 Posted: 09:32 - 21 Jun 2012 Post subject: What are the insurance costs in the UK? |
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Hi! I'm from Sweden and I've always wondered what insurances you get to pay for superbikes. Looking in the project forum, it's full of older bikes and people seem to drive older bikes because they're the only ones they afford.
I honestly believe that Sweden has one of the worst insurance costs when it comes to bikes, but looking at what you brits drive makes me wonder - are we worst?
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I'm 23 years, had my license since 19 years. Basic coverage on let's say a GSXR 2003 is normally somewhere around 2000 euro/year. And our insurance can't be "turned off". You pay the same sum during the winter months even if you don't use your bike. The only way to get rid of the payment is to make an owner change. So basically, you'll be paying ridicilous amounts of money throughout the whole time you own the bike, even if you decided you wouldn't ride the bike for a full year. You must sell the bike.
I've tried Hornet 600 (2008) on my name and the best I've got was somewhere around 1100 euro/year for half insurance (theft, fire and so on).
And remember, these are the best quotes I've been getting - 99% of all the other quotes have been stupid amounts, basic for the gixxer - 14 000 euro / year... that's probably the record.
But realistically - the cheapest basic insurance on a 2012 superbike would be around 3000 euro / year with hard searching for the best quote.
I have no speeding tickets, no accidents, etc etc. I'm from Gothenburg. How are the insurance costs in let's say the bigger cities in the UK. Are they the same like here? I have a hard time imagining anything being more expensive. |
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Insurers seem to use a massive range of variables to mask the fact that when it comes down to it, they'll charge you whatever the hell they want.
If I remember correctly, the quote for my SV this year was around the £250 mark, although that's not fully comprehensive. In my favour, though, I'm a few years older than you, plus a homeowner, which they seem to like. I also have the use of a garage, which definitely helps a lot. Since I live in London, that's pretty damn cheap, in my opinion.
I've not bothered running a quote for a sportsbike, and to be honest, I'm not particularly interested in doing so, but be prepared for the insurers to do their best to utterly ream you. ____________________ '10 SV650SF, '83 GS650GT (it lives!), Questionable DIY dash project, 3D Printer project, Lasercutter project |
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And our insurance can't be "turned off". You pay the same sum during the winter months even if you don't use your bike. The only way to get rid of the payment is to make an owner change. So basically, you'll be paying ridicilous amounts of money throughout the whole time you own the bike, even if you decided you wouldn't ride the bike for a full year. You must sell the bike.
Are you saying you have a continous insurance rule? bike nust be insured whether in use or not? If so would house insurance cover for your ornament suffice?Can you not get Fire & Theft cover only, ie no 3rd party as not in use? ____________________ Fallen Angel "Nae sniffing my seat now!!!!! "
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I have had the renewal through for my R1 which is £78 tpft  ____________________ Just talk bikes.What else is there?
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^^yeah i know a thing or two about insurance, what I am trying to ascertain is if it is law in sweden to have continous insurance on a vehicle, as seems a strange way of doing things.
Fire and theft cover is not that difficult to get once you go past the phone jockeys. ____________________ Fallen Angel "Nae sniffing my seat now!!!!! "
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| Kwaks wrote: | ^^yeah i know a thing or two about insurance, what I am trying to ascertain is if it is law in sweden to have continous insurance on a vehicle, as seems a strange way of doing things.
Fire and theft cover is not that difficult to get once you go past the phone jockeys. |
7-8 years ago this wasn't the case - all insurances had two type, garage insurance (when bike is deregistered) and normal insurance when in traffic. It was great, and much cheaper.
But the insurance companies changed this because according to them bikes in general are so expensive to insure for them. Most people back then had their bike insured for 3-4 months during the summer, and then crashed the bike and got 10k euro for a new one.
So they made all insurances for bikes mandatory during the whole ownership of the bike.
But cars can be deregistered, thank god!
Alot of people make owner changes like I do. After every season I put the bike on my fathers name, and then when the season starts next year I put it back on my name and insure it. That way I just pay for the summer months, even if it they don't like it, they can't do shit. That's what they get for fucking me.
On the other and, I've never used the insurance (no accident) so I'm doing this without feeling bad. |
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32, Ducati Monster 750 garaged in a very nice little village, fully comp but I'm non-resident and so had a lot of trouble finding it. £178 ____________________ current: ducati monster 750
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| Kwaks wrote: | what I am trying to ascertain is if it is law in sweden to have continous insurance on a vehicle, as seems a strange way of doing things. |
Eh, it's the law here now as well. The SORN exception allowed for in 144B (7) is regulatory and thus subject to change on a whim - and I've yet to find the actual regulation.
Anyway, I'd be looking at about £965 for fully comp on a 2012 GSX-R1000, datatag, Almax series 3, locked garage, 40 years old, 3 years NCD, no claims / convictions, commuting, no pillion, full license < 1 year (I'm not going to argue the toss on the whole yehbut-I-passed-in-2010 thing).
That's with MCE though - I'd rather just give my money to a tramp, I'd expect the same level of service. Essentially, the ride-away price for a new Gixxer is £12K and (sharply) up for me, not £11K.
Go to a 2002 bike, remove the security, go for 3PFT, and I'm looking at £161, again from MCE.
If I were given both bikes, would it really be worth pouring £800+ straight down the insurance drain just to own the newer one? Not for me it wouldn't. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Prices vary based on location, bike, rider experience etc: My History of cost:
2006 - 1991 Honda VFR400 - £400
2007 - 2006 Kawasaki ZX6R - £1200
2008 - as above - £700
2009 - as above - £600
2010 - as above - £480
2011 - as above - £440
2012 - 2011 BMW G650 GS & 2006 Kawasaki ZX6R - £490 ____________________ Current Bikes - Kawasaki ZX-6R (636) | BMW G650GS |
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Me: 27 Years Old, Little village on the outskirts of York, 4 years NCB, 0 points and i pay:
2003 ZX-6R = £148 Fully Comp
1998 GSXR600 SRAD = £135 Fully Comp
Both come with free breakdown cover too.
when i had the SV650s - that was a mind boggling £109 Fully Comp, couldn't really justify not riding bikes!! ____________________ Previous: Cub50, NRG50, TS50, YB100, CB125, NSR125, ZZR600, CBF1000, SV650s, ZX6R B1H, XT250, Mito Powered Crosser, WRF450, , FZ600, VN800, GSXR600 - Currently CB1000R |
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You are taking a 'snap-shot' out of context comparison.
As I understand it, we have a 'lower cost of living' in the UK, prices of most 'stuff' being cheaper.... but flip side is we tend to also earn less!
Bike prices in Sweden I also believe are more expensive, both against average income and in $ value.
Then your continiouse 'insurance' scheme changes the way people buy/use bikes. Especially as with harsher winter, likely to be very much a 'summer-toy' rather than all year round transport.
So, in Swedein you have a much higher proportion of more 'affluent' 'leisure-riders' who can afford to indulge their hobby, to whome 'newer' bikes will be more affordable.... and older bikes probably not even available, due to the insure or sell/scrap scheme that will detur people from laying up older bikes like we do here or in the US.
Prices from what you have said, seem a little high in Sweeden, compared to the UK, especially as you dont have the same crime rate or crash-rate...... but you DO have higher cost-of-living.... so may JUST be pro-rata reflation of that, nothing else, possibly inflated a little by higher local pricing of bikes themselves.
Why do we ride more 'older' bikes here in the UK?
Not sure we do.... and looking at the 'Projects' on Show & Tell isn't really a good indication..... that's where we brag the old bikes we 'restore'! We're not likely to 'restore' a 3 year old GSX14, that only 'just' needs its first MOT 'safety' check, are we? ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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