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Tuffers
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 19 Jun 2012    Post subject: Pillion footrests for a CRF 450? Reply with quote

Im thinking of buying a road legal CRF 450 when i pass my test (knock on wood i will have passed mod 2 this time next week.) i want a supermoto because i dont want something that i dont have to worry so much about when im having fun with friends. My question is, can a CRF be fitted with proper footrests to carry a pillion on short rides? If not, what type of footrests are best? The only ones i know of are some pretty flimsy looking clamp-on pegs that clamp straight onto the swing arm. For obvious reasons they dont really look like they are worth bothering with. They also sound pretty dodgy on a bumpy road with the swing arm moving up and down with the passenger's feet ontop.
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PostPosted: 10:44 - 20 Jun 2012    Post subject: Re: Pillion footrests for a CRF 450? Reply with quote

You can also get ones that clamp on the 'sub frame' (it's not a subframe as not bolted on.)
The bike probably won't be designed to have that extra weight all that way back, so certainly not a bike I'd be wanting to take pillions on regularly.
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PostPosted: 12:40 - 20 Jun 2012    Post subject: Re: Pillion footrests for a CRF 450? Reply with quote

G wrote:
The bike probably won't be designed to have that extra weight all that way back, so certainly not a bike I'd be wanting to take pillions on regularly.

You may also find that your insurance company may be less than accomodating should you have an accident whilst carrying a pillion on a bike that is not designed to convey passengers.
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 20 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

i only want to carry a pillion for a short ride e.g. into town and back which is around 15 mins each way. Possible across a dirt track road too.
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DRZZack
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 21 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know you can get them for the wr450f so might be a case of fashioning your own.

One thing, even my DRZsm which came with pillion pegs stock is horrible to ride two up on, and it's even worse being on the back.

Maybe you could somehow bolt some through where the rear plastics are held on if you managed to make your own, just for it to be legal.

But if you think about how torquey a 450 single is, it's pretty hard to stay on the back unless you take it really easy, which takes the fun out of having a supermoto Razz Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 18:33 - 21 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

DRZZack wrote:

But if you think about how torquey a 450 single is, it's pretty hard to stay on the back unless you take it really easy, which takes the fun out of having a supermoto Razz Mr. Green

That would be the low gear, high centre of gravity pillion accommodation being really far back Smile.
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PostPosted: 18:52 - 21 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:

That would be the low gear, high centre of gravity pillion accommodation being really far back Smile.


Haha all I know is I was holding on for dear life sliding off the plastic Razz
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 22 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldnt be booting it with anyone on the back, it would just be to get them from A to B.
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 22 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

tuffers wrote:
I wouldnt be booting it with anyone on the back, it would just be to get them from A to B.


As G said earlier, you'd want to be careful about your subframe.
A quick Google comes up with loads of threads about how the subframe would bend/break, if you think about how these bikes are built as competition bikes to be light, it's easy to see how they're not going to be built with two people in mind.

If you're light enough and your passenger is, you might get away with it, but I wouldn't risk it if I'd just got a nice shiny CRF!
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 22 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm well its either a CRF and weld some support bars under the rear plastic or buy a DRZ400 and get an Athena big bore kit + stroker kit + 41mm carb + hotcams and then have around the same power as the crf :/
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 22 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

tuffers wrote:
Hmm well its either a CRF and weld some support bars under the rear plastic or buy a DRZ400 and get an Athena big bore kit + stroker kit + 41mm carb + hotcams and then have around the same power as the crf :/

Why not get a KTM LC4, TE610 or similar?
They have the weight of the DRZ and the power of the CRF but are designed to take pillions from the off.
Better suspension than the DRZ too.

Doing all that work to a DRZ just seems silly.
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 22 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

tuffers wrote:
Hmm well its either a CRF and weld some support bars under the rear plastic or buy a DRZ400 and get an Athena big bore kit + stroker kit + 41mm carb + hotcams and then have around the same power as the crf :/


You can throw serious amounts of money at a DRZ for extra power, I know lots of people love them, but if I wanted more power when my restriction is up I'd just buy a more powerful bike. Another thing is that once you make your DRZ more powerful it's still gonna weigh more than the CRF (If you're bothered about weight)

I suppose it depends on how often you'd realistically be carrying a passenger; I passed my test and though I'd be ferrying people everywhere and I've carried people about maybe twice. With it being a supermoto as well most people look at it and decide there's nothing to hold on to etc, other people who know it's alright usually have their own bikes Razz

I don't know your situation but if it must have pillion pegs as G said go for some of the bikes designed to take the weight, if it's not necessary go for the CRF if you really want one.

One of the tradeoffs of having a super fun bike I guess.
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 25 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

even the trail bikes which were designed to take passengers are only bearable at best especially for the passenger.

as far as modifying an lightweight off-road bike like the CRF to take passengers > not a good idea for all the reasons above. take anybody too heavy and you'll bend the frame. They aren't designed for it.
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 20 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quad footpegs. Job done.

I had a set of quad pegs on the YZF450 for when I took Rox out on the back.
They are double length, so the pillion can get their feet beside yours on the pegs.
Did some green-laning with her on the back too. No issues what so ever.

Then on SM setup, rode from Gillingham, to Dover, and back again, twos up.





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