Fucking thieving Chav Scum Bastards

[craigie b]

Hi guys,
Some thieving Chav cunt stole my bike last night and the police have recovered it. I left it utside the house thinking it would be fine as I was gonna be on it first thing so it owuld only be outside for a few hours.
Thing is I'm only insured for third party, fire and theft so I'm concerned if there is considerable damage that I am unable to claim. Does anyone know my how I stand against this?

By the way, my insurance allows for me to leave the bike on my street with no form of protection other than steering lock.

Cheers
Craig

[Kickstart]

Hi

First thing to do is go and find out how much damage there is. Also go and get the bike from the police as soon as you can (they will charge you for storage).

Then worry about the insurance claim, or whether to bother claiming (often not worthwhile when you add up the loss of ncb, excess and future increase in premium).

All the best

Keith
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[Ste]

Ahem, your bike was damaged as a result of theft, they will still pay if you got the bike back with damage.

As Keith said it is worth working out if it is financially worth claiming. If the damage will cost say £400 to repair you will get a cheque for that minus your excess say about £250. You will then have lost your NCB and when you get insurance for the next five years will have to declare that you've had a claim, which will add up to more than the £150 cheque you got for claiming. So get the bike back (quickly as they will be charging you for storage of it) and see whats actually damaged and then how much it will cost you to repair.

[craigie b]

Cheers for the responce guys, the police are holding the bike at the moment until they finger print it and other stuff (or so I have been told).
Worst case senario I reckon is that the fairing is all fucked and the steering lock is knackered and potential hotwire job....If this is the case I am sorely tempted just to get the bike resprayed. Any ideas where would do this in North Yorkshire?

[craigie b]

I can't believe I have to pay £105 to get my bike out of the recovery yard. Speak about shafting the victim. Cunts and bastards the fucking lot of them. On a pleasnat note though they did say they would hold any furher charges until I got the money to them (cos I'm broke). So I've got till monday to raise the cash.

[8316]

feel sorry for you man. hope things get sorted out and you get the money ok
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[stryker]

What?!?!?!?!?!? Do the police guarantee a conviction for this £105 then?

[Ste]

The charge of £105 is for recovery and storage of the vehicle from where ever they found it and isn't related to them trying to convict someone for the theft. Stupid amounts to charge when if they'd bothered to ask you you'd probably have been able to sort it out with your recovery or yourself.

[craigie b]

Very true when you consider that the bike was recovered literally a hundred meters from the house! Grrrrr

[Tyral]

Yup. It seems the government goes out of its way to shaft anyone for money.

I got a nice bill off them for £125 to, ahem 'clean oils and debris off the road" from my accident. In fact the only thing that came off my bike was the brake lever which i picked up. And there was a patch of oil about 30 cms(if that) wide on the path, not road.

Makes you think, with all the idiots with low maintained cars that drip oil and diseal all over the road causing accidents, that get away with it.

[tony532]

happened to me mate but the police caught the lad/man trying to pinch it cost me 116 pounds to get it out of storage

i have added that to the damage estimate of 400 pounds

the lad is due at crown court in a few months

he pleaded not guilty at local magistrates

but he confessed to it at police station so

the thieving bastard may get a slap on the wrists but i should get my money back


thieving bastard scum they need a good hiding

[Scooby]

£105 isn't too bad considering. My uncle's a bailiff, if he has to call a van out to a house to sieze goods it's £117.50 as soon as the calls made to order the van, irrespective of whether it's actually needed or not, as soon as the calls made requesting one, the debt increases by £117.50.
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[craigie b]

THats the dumbest thing anyone has ever said to consolidate another.......I'm not a fucking debtor and am most certainly not in fucking arrears....I'm the fucking victim and I've got to pay to get my fucking bike back from the fucking cunts who are suppossed to help you catch the fucking bastards who stole it . And it fucks me off that they refuse blind to give me back MY fucking bike becuase I cannot afford to pay them for the fucking service they have provided...which is fuck all!

Sorry for the rant.

[craigie b]

In fact I'd get a solicitor on to it if I thought it would mean anything!

[craigie b]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARG.....THis makes me so angry.....U won't like me when I'm angry .....


Oh no, wait a minute I'm not the incredible hulk...... whatever was I thinking

[headlamp]

Point taken, and a good one at that! It is extremely unfair that as the victim you should be charged for 'recovery'. I recall last year when my wife's car was stolen - it had to be recovered and I was charged a similar amount. The recovery man was insistent on taking it to the depot where I would have been charged a daily rate until I picked it up! - but I slipped him a tenner and he took it to my house.

The police did absolutely nothing to arrest the thief, despite overwhelming evidence (like his business card left in the car - and similar cars to my wife's outside his house!). So don't expect justice for your £105 - make your own enquiries into who stole your bike and see if you can recover your costs, er, directly
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[craigie b]

I know some young lads round this area who would know such thieving chav cunts and I fully intend to find the cunt(s) and administrate a physical warning to them. With interest.
In fact with double interest for being so dumb they could only wheel it yardss form my door before getting cuaght. Not even good crims.

I would have rather they just stole it outright and sold it cos at least I could have went out and bought a new bike!

[Scooby]

At the end of the day £105 is fuck all. Considering what could have happened if they hadn't recovered it, you could be without a bike entirely, as it could have been stolen again. In the grand scheme of things £105 isn't much to guarantee the safety of your NSR, I take it it's worth a substancial amount more than £105? I know you're going to be pissed off with having to pay it, but at the end of the day if you can't afford £105 to get your bike back what would you do if the top end went and you needed a rebuild? A CG would probably suit your cause more.
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[craigie b]

Eh you obviouslt misunderstand the concept of NOT BEING ABLE TO AFFORD IT. I DON'T HAVE £105 just lying around midway though the month. If they had taken it and sold it I would be receiving a cheque for over 2 grand from my insurance. You ever heard the word BUDGET before?

If the top end went then it would sit around until I could afford. Fuck off with your high and mighty stance that you need to be rich to own a fucking bike.

[roozor]

bloody chavs

[craigie b]

By the way, thats not what fucks me off the most...What really bugs me is the fact that they won't release the bike until the money is forwarded to them.....Who gave them the right to hold my property?

[Minky_monkey]

Unfortunately, the police did, the moment they requested the recovery. Any vehicle removed on behalf of the police can be kept in storage and a charge made for the recovery/storage charges.

Whereabouts are you from? Down here standard police call outs are £140, more if specialist equipment is required.

Storage runs out at around £22 a day.

I know it's not a lot of help. Sorry.

[Ste]

If they had nicked it and made off completely you would not have a cheque for two grand. First of all they'd wait a bit to see if it turned up before paying out for it. You would get a cheque for whatever they have market value as minus your excess.

£105 as Scooby says in the grand scheme of things isn't much, know someone who got charged £500 for recovery of a car and trailer after being involved in an accident and the company the police used to recover it was the same company that his breakdown cover would have used if the police had asked him to call his recovery.

It's not really suprising that they're holding the bike until they're paid as if they just give you the bike back there is very little incentive or interest for you to pay them their money.

The fact that they happily go ahead and use their own recovery and charge you to strore a vehicle rather than asking you if you can collect it from where-ever it was found or ask if you have have recovery is the issue rather than they won't let you have your bike until you pay them.

[Minky_monkey]

Also, to be honest, it has nothing to do with the garage concerned. They are acting upon instructions from the police. The issue regarding contacting you about the removal is down to the police.

A lot of time, the reason they have vehicles collected by a recovery company, is that a garage will attend within 30 minutes of a call out. The police don't generally leave stolen vehicles unattended as many are taken again! This means that the police can get on with other work quicker.

This doesn't help you much though.

[tony532]

if the bike is still there

you can go and view the bike without paying to get it back

if the damage looks like it might be better to go through the insurance rather than paying for it yourself

then the bike has to stay there until it is all sorted out

not nice seeing all the smashed up bikes next to yours were some people have obviously died on them so get ready for that as well mate