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 defblade World Chat Champion

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 Posted: 20:56 - 21 Jun 2012 Post subject: Tools for tyre changing? |
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So, a nice gash through my rear tyre tonight has rendered it junk (why does it always happen in the rain?? (Oh yes, I live in Wales..)) and once again I'm working more hours than the tyre places are open for about the next week or so.
Thinking again of getting the kit to do it myself - easy enough to buy the tyre locally or internet, it's just the fitting.
The adaptors for to turn a paddock stand into a balancer look cheap enough and OK for that job, so my list goes:
balancer adaptor
weights
2 (or 3?) big tyre irons (I'm guessing my plastic pushbike ones won't cut the mustard!)
garden spade (= bead breaker, already got)
old hose pipe for rim protectors
Will I need a new valve (and is there any sort of special tool for that?) and will I need that gloop they put on the bead when fitting?
Last off, any idea if my 12v air compressor will stand a chance of seating it, or will the local petrol station's compressor be likely to be up to the job?
And anything else I'm not taking into account?
Thanks in advance folks  ____________________ Honda Varadero 125cc => Suzuki Bandit 650 33bhp => 77bhp =>
BMW K1200R Sport 163bhp => Aprilia Shiver GT 750 95bhp |
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The gloop they use is ordinary soap like you'd wash your hands with.
A little 12V compressor may well struggle to put air in fast enough or to a high enough pressure to seat the beads on a tubeless tyre.
You'll need one of those little tools to take the valve core out prior to inflating it to seat it on the bead. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Bad luck about the tyre
You guessed right about inflating the new tyre. I have tried in the past to reset the bead and inflate tyres I have fitted with those little electric inflater,s and failed. The local garage airline does it double quick and puts the necessary pressure in to get the bead to seat properly. You may be lucky if you give it a go but my guess is not.
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I do mine with a hammer, 3 tyre levers (plastic ones...wont work, trust me ) and a wide headed chisel.
If I am feeling lazy, I'll break the bead with the car rolling it over the tyre... |
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 Posted: 20:03 - 22 Jun 2012 Post subject: Re: tyre changing |
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I use a length of 4x4 timber as a lever, a slice of 2x4 cut as a wedge as a bead breaker and a car sill as a weight to the end of the timber down whilst pressing on it. I used shampoo as lube, put a bit on before you break the bead and whilst levering on the new tyre. Also use a few bits of 2x4 made into a triangle to keep the wheel from touching the concrete.
Tyre levers, 3 cheap 12 inch silverline levers, cost about £1.50 each. Trick seems to be to lever on a few inches at a time, shouldn't need a lot of force. When fitting, the first bead will go on the wheel without levers and when removing, the first bead should come off the wheel without levers, just need to lube and lever the second bead in each instance.
Once the tyre is on, seating the bead is easy to do with a foot pump unless you are particularly unfit. Get the tyre most of the way on, bounce it a bit to make it set it's position correctly and get pumping, you only seem to lose the first few pumps of air, after that it seals itself and builds pressure. My beads then popped on at about 40psi.
I made my own wheel balancers out of axle stands, scrap bits of steel, small eBay bearings and some bolts. Basically make a bearing holder to bolt to the top of axle stands then use the bike axle as the balancer axle - a DIY version of static motorcycle wheel balancers you can find on gayBay. I was sceptical, but it worked really quite well. |
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Also remember to fit the tyre in the right direction, it would be pretty annoying to have finished, stepped back to admire your work and seen the tyre on wrong  . |
Heh, heh, I'd already worked that one out!!
Just been told by the guy in the workshop at the place I bought the tyre (also a PR2 as it happens) that it's totally impossible for me to fit it myself and I will certainly damage the bead, junking the tyre, and cause the whole world to explode.
So if the world explodes in the next 24 hours, sorry, my bad.
On the other hand, this is the dealer workshop that said "we've taken the restrictors out for you, it's running a bit rough as it's coked up from being restricted; it needs a good blast to clear it through" when what they meant was "we did the jubilee clip on #1 carb's rubber up so that it cut into and split the vacuum pipe heading for the fuel tap, causing #1 cylinder to run like a pig." Which took me, with approx zero experience of bike engines, about 15 seconds to spot once I decided the running wasn't getting any better and pulled over for a look.
So they may just be a bunch of useless tossers. ____________________ Honda Varadero 125cc => Suzuki Bandit 650 33bhp => 77bhp =>
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Ok, I'm going with useless tossers as it all went well, wheel's back on and I've been out for a run, no probs
Hardest part was getting the new valve in! My tyre compressor popped the bead on without any struggling.
Thansk again for all the help guys
Going back out now to do the front discs and pads on my wife's Aygo, so it's all spanners this weekend  ____________________ Honda Varadero 125cc => Suzuki Bandit 650 33bhp => 77bhp =>
BMW K1200R Sport 163bhp => Aprilia Shiver GT 750 95bhp |
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