new here and new to motorcycles looking for advice

[woodall57]

hi, this is my first post of what i hope will be many, i am currently 17 and looking at getting a 125 due to the cheapness compared to learning to drive/getting a car. i have a few questions

1)so these new changes coming in 2013 as im 17 does it make much of a difference doing my test this year or not? if not then whats the deal for me if i was to go for a bigger bike in 2013

2) bike wise im thinking of a ybr. i so far have about 500 pound saved up, so thats a slim chance of getting a ybr/insurance and gear by January 2013 so would another idea be just to spend the money i would have on a bike on getting my cbt/theory then mod 1 and mod 2 before january,

cheers
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[Kingstondavo]

1.) Yes. do your test before January 2013 and get a license with a 33bhp restriction for 2 years. You can ride a 125/250/restricted 500/600 with this license. After 2 years you can ride what you want. After Jan then you will need to sit 3 tests to get an unrestricted license.

2.) Up to you, but £500 is a very small budget to get on two wheels in any form... tests alone cost £120... (assuming you pass first time)
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[woodall57]

yea, thats why i was thinking just going for my restricted straight up and not get a bike

but do you reckon without any road experience ( i have push bike) i would be fine?
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[BruceT]

Get your CBT done and see how you get on. Your instructor should be able to give you an idea.
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[Kingstondavo]

[J.M.]

[Rogerborg]

J.M.s are a rare breed though.

It entirely depends on the individual. You'll be looking at £120+ for the CBT, £121.50 for the tests, so that leaves ~£250 to pay for training and bike hire on your test days, i.e. 2 days after your CBT. That's at the absolute limit of what's achievable.

But get your CBT and Theory test booked ASAP and see how you get on. You may smash it in like a boss.
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[Teflon-Mike]

All your questions answered here:-
I want to Ride a Motorbike! Where Do I start?

You'll struggle with only £500 for everything. Ball-Park, REALISTICALLY is around £2500-£3500 "all-in' to get on the road and get a full licence; a years riding and have a £1000ish bike to show for it at the end.

BUT, cut it up take it one step at a time... see what you can do to scrape extra pennies together....

BUT be careful, January is the dead-line for when you can get a licence worth anything with a 125.... BUT, CBT is only valid for two years, so is Theory Cert, MOD 1 only valid until your Theory Cert expires...

REALLY you need to get it 'all' stacked up and in place ready to go, and 'Do-It' within 6-months to a year, or you'll risk having to take back-steps repeating stuff you have already done because its out of date.
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[J.M.]

[woodall57]

[woodall57]

https://www.yrts.co.uk/prices.php

this is where im on about going

i dont think 1 days training would be enough?

it said that was for competent riders



not that im not competent on the road, just i probably wont be on a bike
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[J.M.]

[DrSnoosnoo]

I think with some common road sense you could understand the road, perhaps with a couple extra bits of training.

With your budget, personally, I'd get the licence because after 2013 it'll be so much of a bugger. Then I'd save up for a "little bike" if that's what you're after. Christ, at least the insurance should be less if you have an A2 rather than provisional.

Good luck
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[Alpha-9]

You'll need a grand just to get a decent bike and helmet, more or less.

I'd recommend getting a 125 that holds it's value, if you get a YBR for 1k you can probably sell it for 1k so you wont lose any money, you'll just gain experience


Other than insurance and all that
Wouldnt recommend going straight into DAS in case you fail, then that's £500 down the drain

And going from 0 to hero in a day would be difficult, if you do decide to do it then I take my hat off to you, considering how many people had to come back for a second day for just the CBT
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[Teflon-Mike]

[woodall57]

[Jynister]

Everyone picks up at least one bad habit. I wouldn't worry about it too much, I threw myself in at the deep end by passing my CBT in December but didn't get my bike until April. So here I was, months not riding a bike and never been on the road on my own, so I was a little bit concerned. But if your sensible and have your head screwed on then you'll be fine.
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[woodall57]

right then

i think i am going to spend the now 600 pounds on just getting my A2 restricted before the new laws come in
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[Rogerborg]

It's a tough choice and there's no right answer, but on balance I would agree that having an A<=25kW license will be worth more in the long term.

You'll want to stop calling it "A2", there's no such category at the moment, but there will be next January. What you'll be doing is tests using a 'standard bike' (121-125cc, <=11kW, 100km/h+). That's also known as an A2 bike, but that (properly) only refers to the bike, not to the tests, not to the license category.

One of the very (very) few good things about the 3rd Directive changes next year is that bikes and licence names will become more consistent, although the DVLA and insurers will have to figure out some way of reconciling that with their current use and abuse of "A2" when they mean "A<=25kW".

Kudos to YRTS for being clear about their pricing and offering 1:1 CBTs rather than the usual 4:1 (or more...) in the yard and 2:1 on the road. If the instructor is half decent, that'd be well worth the money.

Just remember, you're the one paying the money, that makes you the patron, not the patronised.
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[woodall57]

ah right


theory= 18th july
cbt=4th july

then module 1 training (do you reckon a day of training will be enough?) to be quite honest i think module 2 looks a lot harder than module 1. especially considering my lack of experience on a bike on the road (although i have about 4 years on a push bike )

and a days training for module 2?


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[woodall57]

[woodall57]

right then, on to module 1

how much training do you think i would need? is it just a case of learning the maneuvers, i thought module 2 looks harder than module 1, because by the sound of things most of module 1 is covered in a cbt with the U turns and stuff,

half a day should be enough do you reckon?
also, another thing, any tips for module 2
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[Teflon-Mike]

[woodall57]