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JonnyFoxtrot
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PostPosted: 15:28 - 26 Jun 2012    Post subject: Triumph Tiger 1200 Explorer/Adventure type bike opinions? Reply with quote

What are people's thoughts then? On adventure type bikes full stop (you can read my dilmemna two paragraphs down), and the bike itself (have you ridden it, seen it, heard about it?)

Never thought I'd consider an adventure type bike (I've always been in love with sport bikes) but I love the look of it and from what I've read it seems to be a pretty awesome all-rounder. Plus the fact I may start commuting to work (lovely village back roads!) 5 days a week, I'm thinking something like the Trumpet might suit the bill.

Powerful smooth triple motor, reasonably agile and sporty(ish!), great comfy touring potential (now that my missus is enjoying pillion rides), plenty of carrying capacity for commuting bits, all the whistles and bells of modern biking safety (good or bad depending on your opinion), the list could go on I suppose.

My issue is that even after my short time of owning one (ZX6R for 2 yearsish) I think I'm already getting a bit bored of sportbike riding (quick someone punch me in the tits and assess my gary for entry!!!) and I sometimes miss the simple, comfy boring rides I use to take on my old GS500. I've done the track day thing, I've done stupid fast group rides and I've done riding solo evening blasts and its all got a bit samey. Getting out with the missus for a mini adventure for a few hours on the other hand has been great and I'm prefering it to the balls out sport rides I do on my own or with mates, where I can't help but let my right hand partake in the willy waving, barry big bollocks, speed nutter type adrenaline rushes where I very quickly run out of skill, balls or enjoyment. I can see that going bad at some point. Granted the skill and balls could be changed with some advanced riding training and manning up (and although the bike is way better than I will ever be I still consider myself a fairly decent and quick rider), but I just can't seem to warrant all the fuss for what always ends up being 4 hours of constant traffic overtakes/stuck behind a lorry, for 30 seconds here and there of acceleration or top speed rush, sweeping bend thrills and look how nice my sport bike looks. I can't help but think it would be so much easier, comfortable and more enjoyable to just enjoy the ride and scenery for a change on a bike that doesn't goad me (or others to goad me) into riding quicker. You could argue, dont get goaded and just ride where I'm comfortable but then what is the point of the sportbike altogether, when I could do the same non-lairy ride on something more practical?

So then, I'm thinking Adventure/Tourer/Commuter/Weekend away/Afternoon Jaunt with the GF bike. I'm thinking comfy and upright for a change. I'm thinking not on the verge of death but still able to get some speed rush in. I'm thinking maybe a Triumph Tiger 1200 Explorer or other.

Have I gone mental??? Confused

Please do discuss Smile
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 26 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best selling "adventure sports" in May, one of the best selling of all bikes in the UK - only just behind the commuter 125s. They no doubt make a lot of sense on UK roads, but cheese-and-rice you're paying for it.

Something to look out for is the ride-by-wire throttle. The RiDE testers couldn't get on with it, and gave the nod to the R1200GS mostly on that basis.

Still, kudos for being honest about what you'll use it for, rather than starting on the "Oh, yah, yah, I'll probably take a sabbatical in the Carpathians, absorb the real Europe. Does that... intrigue you, Stacey?" <heaves gut closer to horrified receptionist at the office Christmas party>
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 26 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want one with a passion. I had a Tiger 955i, sold it and regret it every single day.

I bought my street triple to slow myself down and for the upright riding position and love the bike. However it's utter pants for touring so I have decided either I sell the striple and get a new/nearly new Tiger (1050 probably rather than the 1200 just because of cost) or buy an older 955i and keep the striple.

I do like the triple engines so I wouldn't have a BM, the boxer twin engine isn't my favourite configuration but they are very popular bikes.
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 26 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome bikes and il definitely own one when I can afford to invest.
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PostPosted: 09:58 - 27 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
I want one with a passion. I had a Tiger 955i, sold it and regret it every single day.

I bought my street triple to slow myself down and for the upright riding position and love the bike. However it's utter pants for touring so I have decided either I sell the striple and get a new/nearly new Tiger (1050 probably rather than the 1200 just because of cost) or buy an older 955i and keep the striple.

I do like the triple engines so I wouldn't have a BM, the boxer twin engine isn't my favourite configuration but they are very popular bikes.


That's whats swaying me from the BM to be honest, the engine. That and the fact that I don't want to be part of the "R1200GS just because everyone including Charlie and Ewan have one" birgade. I'm not much of a fan of twins, I prefer my power to be a bit more linear, same reason I'm not much of a fan of diesels. Interesting view point about the street triple as well thanks, that was my other option Smile
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PostPosted: 10:07 - 27 Jun 2012    Post subject: Re: Triumph Tiger 1200 Explorer/Adventure type bike opinions Reply with quote

Not a fan of the big 'adventure' bikes. Presuming you're not going to play at getting dirty, consider a bike that has 17" wheels.
I'm guessing you've got a good bit of budget; me if I wanted a bike like that I'd definitely be considering the TDM900.
But then I'd also be wondering about giving a sports bike a bit more comfort and luggage.

Oh and cars are pretty good for 'mini-adventures' too, which can often be a bit more spontaneous and adventuresome as it's a lot easier to just jump in and go Smile.
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PostPosted: 10:25 - 27 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

To add my Penny Coin 's worth...

I have only seen the new Triumph and I did like the looks. This is compared to the older version. The two happened to be parked almost side by side at Squires.

However, with my logical head on rather than the one that likes bright shiny new things...
The BMW has a longer pedigree, established owners club(s), many accessories and support network. So that would be the one I'd go for. Having said that it'd probably be the older GS1150 but that'd be down to finances atm. The Triumph might be just a flash in the pan in comparison.

Plus there are other options. I did consider the Suzuki DL VStrom as a tourer (or the equivalent Kawasaki KLV - although that's not a current model).
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PostPosted: 12:01 - 28 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im looking to take on the adventure route asap. Cant afford a 1200 but thinking an older Tiger will suffice for now. Smile Cant wait
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 28 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll just leave this here...

https://www.ducati.com/bikes/multistrada/1200/index.do
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 28 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

bazza wrote:

Have they sorted the Ducati side stand and build quality (flaky paint etc.) now?
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PostPosted: 13:20 - 28 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

map wrote:
bazza wrote:

Have they sorted the Ducati side stand and build quality (flaky paint etc.) now?


Dunno. Have you tried asking them? Or are you just parroting questions from 10 years ago?
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 28 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

bazza wrote:
map wrote:
Have they sorted the Ducati side stand and build quality (flaky paint etc.) now?
Dunno. Have you tried asking them? Or are you just parroting questions from 10 years ago?

As you posted the link I thought you might have some experience of the bike.
Not parroting but going on the state of one I saw last year. IIRC that one was about 2 years old, looked older from the state. Checking Ducati models it might not have been a 1200 then. I know initial models had the Ducati side stand issue and was hoping that'd be fixed by now.

Not an issue for me anyhow as without mods Multistrada seat is a tad too high for me and IMO there are better bikes of that type that fit me.
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 28 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm seriously considering the Tiger 800, the 1200 seems unnecessary to me.
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 28 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few weeks back I was out on a jaunt and ended up in cumbria and stopped at a pub.

3 bikes turned up a few minutes later all fully loaded and pillions included.

one was a Tiger explorer with the full kit:

https://static.blogo.it/twowheelsblog/triumph-explorer-live-eicma-02/1explorer_15.jpg

It looked stunning.

Spoke to the group as was outside in beer garden. The Tiger owner looked completely fresh considering they had ridden up from Kent in a single trip.

It did look a pretty big beast of a bike though.

*Edit*

Just been reading some reviews. Minor service is every 10'000 miles and major service every 20'000 miles........ pretty impressive!
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 28 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

LordShaftesbury wrote:
I'm seriously considering the Tiger 800, the 1200 seems unnecessary to me.


Shaft drive and single side swingarm. If they had that on the 800 or the 1050 I'd happily have either over the 1200 just for the size and weight aspect.
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PostPosted: 19:19 - 28 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

JonnyN wrote:
I'm not much of a fan of twins, I prefer my power to be a bit more linear,


Perhaps you need to look at Versys 1000 Inline 4 adventure bike...
From reports of riders of the Versys 650, it a great ride. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 28 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:

Shaft drive and single side swingarm.

Why do you find those particularly essential.

Much as I'm not a big fan of the genre, I do like the idea of a recent Multistrada.
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 28 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Polarbear wrote:

Shaft drive and single side swingarm.

Why do you find those particularly essential.


No chain to bugger around with and 5 minutes to take a wheel off. If you have ever tried to remove the rear wheel on a 1500 goldwing you will understand my love for single side swingarms Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 28 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see myself ever removing a wheel, and I've got along with chains OK so far.
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 28 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

5 minutes to take a wheel off Confused.

Sounds significantly slower than the alternatives Wink - once I've got it on a stand, it's a minute or so; no more than two for my chain driven KTM.

The KTM I would be putting some proper dirt tyres on half way through my 'adventure' (and have done at a Campsite in spain, etc.)

Never found a chain a big issue - chain oiler and you don't need to do much generally.
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 28 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nick 50 wrote:
Minor service is every 10'000 miles and major service every 20'000 miles........ pretty impressive!

Hey, that's pretty good.

Although it's about time too.

And it's a car sized water cooled engine in a vehicle that (even with its epic lard) weighs less than 1/4 of a small car while getting about the same fuel economy.

And it's twice as often as my 9 year old Citroen needs serviced. Which has never actually had a "major" service, and has done 50K on basic oil and filter changes. Still got the original plugs in, now that I think about it.

So all-in-all, still pretty piss poor. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 29 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try a ZXR750 then. The valves need checking ever 6,000m it's ridiculous.
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