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ScaredyCat
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 03 Jul 2012    Post subject: Buying a bike with a swapped out speedo Reply with quote

So,

I'm looking at getting a bike and find one that looks like it'd fit the bill. The thing is it has a

"Replacement used speedometer"

I'm not entirely sure if that means they swapped out the speedo for an old one that has more miles on it or not. They do go on to say:

"documented by dealer with invoice to prove current mileage."

Should I just stay away from it?


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PostPosted: 13:33 - 03 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really are a ScaredyCat aren't you Laughing

It seems legit, just shows that the bikes had a crash at some point, you might want to ask about anything else that was damaged. I had to change my clocks and that's because when I crashed it bent the frame, the forks, and smashed the clocks up

depends if it's cheap enough to justify buying a crashed bike Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 03 Jul 2012    Post subject: Re: Buying a bike with a swapped out speedo Reply with quote

ScaredyCat wrote:
So,
"documented by dealer with invoice to prove current mileage."


Seems legit then Thumbs Up

I've been hunting for a new bike for the past couple of weeks and I've seen quite a few with replacement clocks, whether from them being crash damaged or the speedo going. They sometimes come with the old clocks in order to prove mileage but if it's documented by the dealer that would be good enough for me.
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PostPosted: 16:08 - 03 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember back when I broke my CG speedo, I purchased a new one, and used that one for a while, including going through an MOT. So, from my previous MOT I had acheived some 25k on a 125...LOL!

However, I did note down the numbers before and after any changes and managed to calculate what I would have if I put it back, so my bike is all legit, even if looking through the old MOT there is a discrepency. Namely in the fact that one mot shows 22k, the next shows 48k then the 3rd shows 27k xD
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PostPosted: 16:15 - 03 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a bike, wouldn't bother me. Assume it's the highest of any candidate figure though, unless there's compelling evidence to the contrary. If dealer told me that a bike came with two wheels, I'd count them carefully.
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 03 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't shy away from it, but I'd want to see MOTs backing up mileage claims. I sold my CB500 with a speedo that read 32,000 miles more than the bike had done, but I had a picture of me doing the swap, plus MOTs for the previous 6 years. If you can see an owner's done 4k, 4k, 4k, 36k, 4k, 4k, then unless they went around the world for their holiday on it it's quite likely it's genuine Smile
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 03 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't get why people never set the mileage on new clocks to match that of their old clocks?

Surely all it takes is using a drill to act as the speedometer cable and add miles on to the clocks. Then they reset to 0, then you increase the mileage until it matches your original clocks mileage?

I've done more miles than my bike says! Very Happy The speedometer cable managed to fall out about 20 miles from home Embarassed
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 03 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.M. wrote:
I don't get why people never set the mileage on new clocks to match that of their old clocks?

Surely all it takes is using a drill to act as the speedometer cable and add miles on to the clocks. Then they reset to 0, then you increase the mileage until it matches your original clocks mileage?

I've done more miles than my bike says! Very Happy The speedometer cable managed to fall out about 20 miles from home Embarassed


I actually took the whole unit appart and removed the dial, allowing me to manually choosing whatever figure I wanted..
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PostPosted: 07:19 - 04 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpha-9 wrote:
Really are a ScaredyCat aren't you Laughing

It seems legit, just shows that the bikes had a crash at some point, you might want to ask about anything else that was damaged. I had to change my clocks and that's because when I crashed it bent the frame, the forks, and smashed the clocks up

depends if it's cheap enough to justify buying a crashed bike Thumbs Up


Yes. Yes I am Very Happy

The thing is, now I know that it's going to have had an accident which the seller hasn't even mentioned. On this occasion I think I'll skip it. The price difference isn't enough to take a chance on it as far as I'm concerned.

Failed at finding those magic bikes at £500 - even on ebay so I've upped my limit to ~£1600 for a GC/YBR (give or take) - more if it's a Varadero Very Happy

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PostPosted: 08:47 - 04 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

£1300 will get you a clean YBR Wink

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Motorcycles-Scooters-/422/i.html?_nkw=ybr+125
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-YBR125-LEARNER-LEGAL-2008-FUEL-INJECTED-57-REG-JUST-1970-MILES-/290727373427?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item43b0b3aa73#ht_500wt_1156

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PostPosted: 09:58 - 04 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't have to have been crashed. The clocks on the bike may simply have stopped working so the biker brought a second hand set of clocks to replace them.

It's always a thought to actually ask the owner why the clocks have been changed?

Also, buying a crashed bike isn't something I would really worry about. So long as any repairs are done to a good and safe standard, there's not a lot to worry about.

I crashed my bike in to a van at speed. Repaired it myself and I have absolutely no worries about safety when riding it; proven by the fact I will happy take people that I care about on the back of the bike. I'll be keeping this bike about another year and a half more. Maybe even more than that, I don't know. It still needs cosmetically refining but that doesn't bother me so much. I may save up to get the frame re painted etc, we'll see.
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