SMIDSY biker killer cleared

[Irn-Bru]

https://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news--general-news/smidsy-biker-killer-cleared/20957.html

[CaNsA]

fkin ridiculous

Next time i get pulled for anything by the rozzers i will use the defense.

"Sorry mate, i didnt see the sign/you/your police car"

[Hetzer]

Without knowing all that the jury heard...like maybe the biker was doing 90 in a 40? Otherwise it's hard to understand what the jury could have been thinking.
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I'd be interested to know if this sets any kind of precedent and case law.

I think each incident has to be judged individually but I'm concerned if "Crown vs MacIntyre" could be brought up to justify future "just didn't see him" defence.

[Kris]

This is exactly why I want a switch on my bikes to turn the headlights OFF.

When the sun is low and behind you, a headlight can render you invisible to others.


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[hazza]

Accidents are just that. Accidents.

The stakes are just that much higher when you ride a motorcycle.
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[MarJay]

There is a well known problem with the size of A pillars on modern cars. It means that when you look around the A pillar, if you move your eye line in the opposite direction that a bike is coming from, the bike can be hidden behind the A pillar for the entire look.

This is why you should always look around the front of the A pillar on roundabouts, not behind it.

I wonder if the prosecution were aware of this, because it means that his driving fell below the standard reasonably expected of him if he didn't look in a way that is likely to see a bike...
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[_matt]

this happens pretty often though sadly.

General Public's view:
Get on a bike, you may as well be cutting your wrists

Bikers View:
Cagers are fucking careless

I had a mate killed in Staffordshire (by the county show ground) last year cos someone cut the corner in front of him (coming the other way). Car driver walked away from it with a slap on the wrist. Nobody gives a shit about bikers cos "we're a menace" and "we're all careless and stupid yobos"

sorry, but that fucks me right off
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[Rogerborg]

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[MarJay]

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It's sad that someone can get off for the reason "I didn't see him. I hope there was more to it than that. That might set a president in the future.

[Rogerborg]

While A-pillars don't appear to have any bearing in this case, it is a definite issue. The wife's new Zafira has A pillars thicker than Warped, I must look like some demented owl as I weave my head from side to side to get a clear view.

And of course, like 95% of drivers out there, she doesn't bother.

The very first roundabout on my commute is where I'm going to get mashed up, I just know it. I'm on a blind approach and potentially hidden right behind the A pillar of approaching traffic tanking it down a steep hill and just not expecting anything to emerge from my direction.

Having just wired up an alarm siren to my flasher switch, I'm now fingering it like a trigger approaching that roundabout. I know that I should just damn well use it and/or the horn pre-emptively, but one doesn't like a make a fuss like some excitable Continental...
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[Dave70]

I guess I'll ring up my insurer and tell them to throw my insurance claim in the bin then. If drivers can get away with pulling out of a junction in front of you and get off with it as "They did not see you" being a good enough reason.

What ever happened to driving without due care and attention?

I know we don't know the full story but, this as it reads is discusting.

Hmmm...might go and mow the ex down tonight. It'll be OK, I'll just say I didn't see her

[Andy_Pagin]

So in a nutshell what this case implies is:

If you want to pull out across oncoming traffic, and can't see what's coming towards you, just go for it, it doesn't matter if you kill someone.

Surely to god this verdict has to be contested somehow, its bloody insane.
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With any luck, some of the jurors will be hit by the driver they've just let off for murder due to lack of attention, when he just "doesn't see" them crossing the road. Now that would be poetic justice.
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[TheSmiler]

Most probably going to get karma raped because of this but in my opinion smidsy is just accidental death.

[Walloper]

It should make all bikers who read the story think how safe they are 'sharing' public roads with other vehicles.
I do not dam and blast those who SMIDSY me now. I hope I anticipate the move before it happens.

One should really ride to the road conditions and be aware of changes in situations.

I am not convinced SMIDSY is a panacea to be used for so many accidents involving cars that hit bikes.
Likewise, I do not feel Hi-Viz helps as much as advocates for it's use think it helps. Hi-viz may make you easier to see but people have difficulty judging speed and distance.

If you tee-bone a car then you were riding too fast for the conditions. I put my safety in my own hands rather than rely on the ninkumpoops who may not see me.
Being dead by a careless driver or a not careless driver still means yer dead.

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[jjdugen]

Like it or not, low sun can be blinding. Its not that I condone a driver puling out when nearly blinded, its just that it will happen. Surely the answser is a photo-reactive film on side windows to cut the glare down
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