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EazyDuz
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 10 Jul 2012    Post subject: Straight through pipe on a 535 virago Reply with quote

My bike currently has an aftermarket exhaust, it is a baffled Remus exhaust. Plugs are tanned, looking perfect.
I might get some secondhand straight through pipes for the bike, but will the carbs need rejetting? The virago has 2 carbs, is it likely i would need to rejet?
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 10 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes you would need to if fitting straight through pipes!
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 10 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Family member had an XV1100 with slash cut straight through pipes. Jesus christ was it loud. It will piss off your neighbours, make your ears bleed, dogs bark, babies cry and eyeballs vibrate in your skull.

But it won't half put a smile on your face.

Sat behind the virago at traffic lights used to make my visor vibrate...
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 10 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha did he have to rejet? Ive read some people do, some dont, if it needs to be rejet i wont bother buying them, as im a noob with carbs and heard they are a ballache to remove
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 10 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

She Laughing

Not really sure to be honest. I know it had new carbs when it was restored as the originals were fucked, but dunno if they kept standard jetting. I may be able to find out though... If I get a reply to the text I just sent you'll have an answer.

The bike was sold a while ago but I'm still in touch with the man that fitted them. (And unfitted and then refitted them every year for the MOT Laughing )
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 10 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

here is a pic of the ones i might buy

https://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt134/Kurt_V/S8300220.jpg
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 10 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, wasn't rejetted Smile

Although that's no guarantee that it didn't need rejetting. It ran alright though!
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 10 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noxious89123 wrote:
Nope, wasn't rejetted Smile

Although that's no guarantee that it didn't need rejetting. It ran alright though!


Thanks for the info, hmm, i guess no one will know for sure, except maybe Tef? lol
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 10 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fit some, do some mileage and then check the plug colour maybe? Best to get another opinion from one of the workshop gods though.
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 10 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

What type of carbs does it have?
If they're CV's they'll handle a straight through well.
Once did 200+miles coming back from Exeter with the rear pipe split off from the collector box on an 81 XV750, it didn't seem to mind it.
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 10 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

MickC wrote:
What type of carbs does it have?
If they're CV's they'll handle a straight through well.
Once did 200+miles coming back from Exeter with the rear pipe split off from the collector box on an 81 XV750, it didn't seem to mind it.



they are this kind of carb:

https://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt134/Kurt_V/SV206438.jpg
https://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt134/Kurt_V/SV206434.jpg
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PostPosted: 23:13 - 10 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy - DONT DO IT!

There's a chap round Snowies Flats with a 535 'rat' with Slash-Cuts.....

First time I heard it pull up, I couldn't decide if it was a Harley with a piston missing, or a badly tuned Briggs & Stratton Lawn-Mower, with a rusty muffler!

SERIOUSLY they sound SHIT!

LOUD, yes.... but noise is NOT a neither a deep rumble, nor a harsh 'bark'..... it's not the exhaust tuning, its the cam-timing & firing interval.....

They just sound AWFUL

And you don't want any more 'power' because you got more than your allowed now...... so don't bother!

Suspect that to get a more 'meaty rumble' out of one of these, you'd be best going the other way, and using a pair of larger glass-pack mufflers, or cherry-bombs, to get some 'resonance' happening.
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PostPosted: 08:05 - 11 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh ok, ive seen a youtube vid and thought it sounded good lol, but i guess i wont bother then
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PostPosted: 09:57 - 11 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:

And you don't want any more 'power' because you got more than your allowed now...... so don't bother!

How do you know he doesn't want more power?
As ever, didn't stop you riding a motorbike on the road when you should have only been on a pushbike.

Personally, I think loud harleys don't sound good either.
Everyone has their own leanings., though it's not for me.
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PostPosted: 11:19 - 11 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats just a tube Laughing That is going to be loud!

I'm all for loud pipes, but running the bandit/cat/GSXR on just headers were too loud..
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 11 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

As another point id love to meet an engine designer/development engineer who would admitt that changing to a completely straight though exhaust, would need no fueling tweaks to compensate.

I cannot believe how many race can manufactur'ers there were that used to say you could safely put a race can on most carb fed sportsbikes and never need to re-jet. I bet in the 90's there must have been dozens of people with knackered engines, burnt out valves etc and crap carburation all from running a straight through loud can.
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 11 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive never ridden any bike with straight through s that didnt need re-jetting afterwards,
they always need a bit of a play to get them running as good as original,
a bit of back pressure isnt a bad thing
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PostPosted: 13:24 - 11 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

well my bike already has aftermarket pipes and runs fine, isnt rejetting just scaremongering?
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 11 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vincent wrote:
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well my bike already has aftermarket pipes and runs fine, isnt rejetting just scaremongering?


Not all aftermarket pipes require re-jetting, in fact, most manufacturers will aim to make a pipe that needs as little work as possible doing to the bike when fitting.


True but those particular pipes look literally like pipes, will give no back pressure whatsoever
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 11 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

well my bike already has aftermarket pipes and runs fine, isnt rejetting just scaremongering?
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PostPosted: 16:44 - 11 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vincent wrote:
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well my bike already has aftermarket pipes and runs fine, isnt rejetting just scaremongering?


No, re-jetting is just changing the size of the jets in a carb for better running.
Saying that you need to change jets with all aftermarket pipes could be considered scare-mongering but it's certainly something you should be aware off as incorrect fueling can cause serious damage to an engine. It's a bit more crucial with two strokes TBH but can effect 4 strokes too.


The diameter of the slash cuts is actually smaller by the looks of it than the stock ones, certainly smaller than the Remus ones i have on it.
But when rejetting, which jets need changing exactly? And how are you supposed to know how much bigger the jets need to be?

Secondly, is changing an exhaust difficult? You have to replace the gaskets between the cylinder and the header pipe correct? Do you need to use a kind of sealant too?
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