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Fowlersrs
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PostPosted: 17:16 - 12 Jul 2012    Post subject: Insurance asking for repair estimate?! Reply with quote

Can someone in the know offer some assitance here, I have just reported the incident I had on my bike last night to my insurance, who said that the underwriters would most probably send someone around to estimate the damage..

however the underwriters have rang and said I need to find a garage of my choosing to get a repair estimate..

now im convinced this things gonna be a write off as the front end is missing, but does anyone know what percentage it takes to deem as a write off and how its decided??!

Is this standard procedure?
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 12 Jul 2012    Post subject: Re: Insurance asking for repair estimate?! Reply with quote

Fowlersrs wrote:
Can someone in the know offer some assitance here, I have just reported the incident I had on my bike last night to my insurance, who said that the underwriters would most probably send someone around to estimate the damage..

however the underwriters have rang and said I need to find a garage of my choosing to get a repair estimate..

now im convinced this things gonna be a write off as the front end is missing, but does anyone know what percentage it takes to deem as a write off and how its decided??!

Is this standard procedure?


might help if we knew condition and value of the bike before the incident.
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PostPosted: 18:13 - 12 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

There isn't an exact amount of damage to be deemed a write off. Generally I believe its 40-60% of the value of the vehicle. Essentially if the repair is not cost effective.
Most insurance will send round their own in-house mechanics but I suppose that way is possible too obviously, just a bit more inconvenient for you.
Also, decline the first payment, ALWAYS.
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 12 Jul 2012    Post subject: Re: Insurance asking for repair estimate?! Reply with quote

Kwaks wrote:
Fowlersrs wrote:
Can someone in the know offer some assitance here, I have just reported the incident I had on my bike last night to my insurance, who said that the underwriters would most probably send someone around to estimate the damage..

however the underwriters have rang and said I need to find a garage of my choosing to get a repair estimate..

now im convinced this things gonna be a write off as the front end is missing, but does anyone know what percentage it takes to deem as a write off and how its decided??!

Is this standard procedure?


might help if we knew condition and value of the bike before the incident.


well it was a tidy 04 Z750 in unfettled condition with 8-9k on the clock. ive seen worse examples for 2695 - 2995 on autotrader.
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 12 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

damage as far as I can see..

*entire front wheel assembly broken away from the bike as both forks snapped sending fluid everywhere on the bike..

*massive gaping hole in front wheel, bent discs, etc etc

* dents in petrol tank on both sides..

* massive damage to handle bars and yoke to the point where the handlebars turn one way more than the other.

* the exhaust manifold has absorbed so much impact from the crash barrier its shifted the engine back prob 1/2 inch.. oil filter broke pissing out oil everywhere

* radiator is bent and mangled to the subframe pretty bad..

*unsure if the subframe itself is bent but the way the yoke and handlebars are wouldnt surprise me..

* gear change lever and peg snapped off on left side

*left side rear fairing cracked under pillion seat with scuffs


and thats from someone who doesnt have much mechanical knowledge, I cant see how it cant be a write off?!
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 12 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree.

How are you supposed to get that to a garage anyway?
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 12 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nexus Icon wrote:
I agree.

How are you supposed to get that to a garage anyway?


well this is it, im sure my chosen repair place could get it on there van but who pays for all that.. the insurance i guess, what bugs me is its obvious to see its a write off so why not send an inspector round?
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 12 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell your insurance you can get the garage you've chosen to pick it up and assess it and the costs are theirs to pay for.

This includes, labour, picking up, dropping off, etc.

I said this to an insurance company and they knew they'd have to.
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PostPosted: 19:45 - 12 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

GF-91 wrote:
Tell your insurance you can get the garage you've chosen to pick it up and assess it and the costs are theirs to pay for.

This includes, labour, picking up, dropping off, etc.

I said this to an insurance company and they knew they'd have to.


Yeah im gonna have it out with them tomorrow as its stupidity and is going to cost them for something innevitable...
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 12 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at the damage prepare yourself for it to be written off.
Insurance look at the cost of new parts and will replace anything with damage. The forks alone could write it off.
HTH

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PostPosted: 20:11 - 12 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

jay12329 wrote:
Looking at the damage prepare yourself for it to be written off.
Insurance look at the cost of new parts and will replace anything with damage. The forks alone could write it off.
HTH

J


to be fair mate this is what I would like, I wouldnt feel comfortable riding it again knowing what sort of impact it has had. Will keep u guys informed as to how I get on

just been lookin at genuine parts list..

fuel tank is best part of £900
suspension damper set £900
brake discs £250 each
radiator £578
front wheel £670

this is all without labour lol
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 12 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barnaby wrote:

You can tell your insewerance company that your bike is a write off untill you are blue in the face, they won't listen to you because they neither respect or trust your opinion.

If you expect them to, or heaven forbid they actually did, then I could think of several insurance fraud possibilities that would be very, very profitable.


Yeah I guess what it takes is a Kawasaki dealer to say it is then, il be speaking with my local dealer tomorrow who charge a pretty penny for there services I can tell u, just frustrating they cant send an expert to the bike so it all moves along a bit quicker u know
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 12 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barnaby wrote:

Does your comprehensive policy include provision for a replacement bike whilst yours is being repaired?


I dont think so, I didnt see any courtesy bike options tbh, who knows maybe, il ask tomorrow.

should I be looking to claim loss of earnings through having time off work or is that only when another party is involved and there insurance pays out>
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 12 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fowlersrs wrote:
Barnaby wrote:

You can tell your insewerance company that your bike is a write off untill you are blue in the face, they won't listen to you because they neither respect or trust your opinion.

If you expect them to, or heaven forbid they actually did, then I could think of several insurance fraud possibilities that would be very, very profitable.


Yeah I guess what it takes is a Kawasaki dealer to say it is then, il be speaking with my local dealer tomorrow who charge a pretty penny for there services I can tell u, just frustrating they cant send an expert to the bike so it all moves along a bit quicker u know


You might get away with emailing photos. I highly doubt it but it's worth an ask.
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 12 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Insuramongs,

I called the local garages, described the damage and asked them if they'd like to invest their time in producing a detailed estimate for repairing a bike that's obviously going to be a write off. Two of them just laughed and hung up, the other one threatened to set the dog on me.

Does my policy cover dog bite injuries?
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 13 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your gear change level is broken, would be good to check if shaft in side is not broken.

Otherwise I would talk to insurance and tell them your problem with delivering bike to the garage for estimate and ask them who will pay for it.

They might have some kind of agreement with garages near you
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PostPosted: 12:46 - 13 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_quick wrote:
If your gear change level is broken, would be good to check if shaft in side is not broken.

Otherwise I would talk to insurance and tell them your problem with delivering bike to the garage for estimate and ask them who will pay for it.

They might have some kind of agreement with garages near you



Confused Apart from the gear lever being broken, it's got no fookin front end. This mean NO front forks and No front wheel. Personally I think those 2 things are a more important factor for transporting it to the garage. Wink
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 13 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a bit of feedback for you guys, after a second phone call today said underwriter apologised for other phone call and said if I thought that the bike was beyond reasonable repair, they would organise the salvagers to come in and collect and have there professional valuers place a value on the bike.

He went on to say that the settlement offer would not be an insult to my intelligence but a realistic representation of current market value, thats why they use a valuer apparently. Now it all sounds a bit too good to be true, i said myself I was skeptical but if they come up trumps I would share my love with friends and forum goers!! So we shall see if they deliver...

I have 6 print outs here Infront of me, all are 04 Z's and all have higher miles than mine, priced @ 2599-2999... We shall see!!
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 13 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's more like it. Best of luck with the valuation. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 06:30 - 14 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you have helmet and leathers cover ? dont forget as they are likely to be ruined
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PostPosted: 08:11 - 14 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

What actually happened? Am I right in thinking you've not been riding long? Accident with another vehicle? Pictures? Explanation?
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PostPosted: 10:17 - 14 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fowlersrs wrote:
underwriter apologised for other phone call and said if I thought that the bike was beyond reasonable repair, they would organise the salvagers to come in and collect and have there professional valuers place a value on the bike.

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Fowlersrs wrote:
He went on to say that the settlement offer would not be an insult to my intelligence but a realistic representation of current market value, thats why they use a valuer apparently.

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PostPosted: 10:57 - 14 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

AnPhonEh wrote:
What actually happened? Am I right in thinking you've not been riding long? Accident with another vehicle? Pictures? Explanation?


Can't believe that it's taken this long for no one else to ask that question...... Embarassed

Not going a AsUME anything here....

Mention of barrier damage... Council are going to like that, as they are Arm & Leg to repair at their prices Shocked

Never mind the ROFL pic....

Where is the bend over and prepare to be reemed one Laughing
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