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McJamweasel
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 13 Oct 2004    Post subject: Hanging off in the wet Reply with quote

I tried it tonight. Now I'm not talking full on knee down-esque amounts of hanging off, nor kneww down lean angles, more about half an ass cheek off and quite sedate lean angles.

The result? More confidence. I sometime find that in the wet I run off line, especially on one particular roundabout. With me moving off the seat a touch tonight I found that I could hold as tight a line as I wanted, and not by going any slower than I normally would in the conditions.

Anyone tried it/do it? If you do have confidence issues in the wet i suggest you give it a go.
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PostPosted: 23:54 - 13 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its not my confidence, its my rear tyre, its utter w*nk in the wet
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PostPosted: 00:06 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

just keep it smooth and you will be ok Cool
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PostPosted: 00:09 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Its not my confidence, its my rear tyre, its utter w*nk in the wet

By hanging off you're actually shifting the centre of gravity, letting you stand the bike more upright for the same speed. So if you have shite tyres, hanging off in the wet should actually help.
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PostPosted: 00:19 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: tyres Reply with quote

My old bt20's and this crappy avon i have on atm seem to suck when cold and if you pansy arse about they dont get warm.

If i boot it about and spin up /slid into corners they tend to become quite good .
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PostPosted: 00:22 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a phobia of the wet too. I was trying to lean a little more than normal last weekend like you were saying McJam and found that there wasn't really anything to worry about.

Does anyone knee down in the wet?
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PostPosted: 00:24 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

ProXimaCore wrote:
Does anyone knee down in the wet?


On the 400greybike rideout to Wales last year, it was raining a lot most of the day, I learnt a lot about riding in the rain, a lot more grip then I'd ever actually imagine Shocked

But scaramanga had his knee down on a good few WET roundabouts Shocked Twisted Evil

You want to try riding my supermoto in the rain, you'll be backing it in like Ady Smith before you even get to the end of the road!!
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PostPosted: 10:31 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got my knee down in the wet many times. I have confidence in my tyres, which is one of the most important things for riding in the wet.
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PostPosted: 10:44 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cant ride in the wet, my confidence and bottle goes completly, I'm the sort of rider you'll see huddled under a bridge or bus stop if I get caught out Embarassed
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't say I've tried it, can't say I want to try it!

I can't even hang off in the dry!!

Just don't do it with me on the back McJam-boy. Or you will hear more screaming than you heard that time on the A34! Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

ProXimaCore wrote:


Does anyone knee down in the wet?


Yes. As long as you keep it smooth, as has been previously said, you;ll have no problems.

Laughing Cool
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it was (is) absolutely pouring down and I didn't realise how bad my brakes are, but besides the point I don't have the confidence yet to lean in the rain plus I'm still getting use to riding in leathers.
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PostPosted: 13:49 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can have amazing grip in the wet then it's just that - wet. It's the floating lubricants you have to be careful of. Rolling Eyes

I'm never that convinced about roundabouts in the rain, purely because of the higher chance of them having slippy shit dribbled all over them so tend to take them nice and easy. That said, I haven't had a roundabout slide since I got decent tyres, but a slither on the old Pirellis across Hogarth roundabout made me realise that this was not a trick I wanted to repeat.

I actually prefer it pouring down to drizzling - pouring tends to shift enough water to wash the slimey crap away, drizzle just makes it greasy.
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PostPosted: 13:58 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hogarth as in the one in Chiswick if so thats one I definitely take nice and easy in the wet
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, the one in Chiswick. Dunno if it's the surface or the angle or what, but it seems to retain crud really well.
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PostPosted: 15:53 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I do still hang off a tad when riding in the wet, and thats only cos I am very confident in the tyres I use and thesure footed handling of my bike, I am alot smooter in the wet than I am in the dry which seems to help make a difference.

So far I haven't had that many slides on the GPZ running with BT45's. Smile
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PostPosted: 19:45 - 14 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tend to hang off a little in the wet,not much,just enough to shift my weight to let the bike stay a bit more upright.
I grew up riding bikes with skinny tyres and no grip in the wet so it takes a while to build up confidence i guess a couple of wet track day sessions might help that.
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 15 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMHO it's more about getting the feel for when your tyres are about to lose grip rather than having blind confidence in them.
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PostPosted: 17:29 - 15 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having read this at lunchtime, I had a try at riding home 'McJam'ish on the way home tonight, works a treat! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 15 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have Metzeler ME22s and they are not very confidence inspiring in the wet at all. Taking roundabouts I could take at 50 odd, taking them any more than 30 sees the back end sliding out. They didn't seem so bad the last time I was out in the wet but I have had the back end of her slide in out a few corners which has shattered my confidence somewhat.
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 15 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

dibbster wrote:
I had a try at riding home 'McJam'ish on the way home tonight, works a treat! Very Happy


Hehe, McJam should get a copyright for "McJamish"!!!
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 15 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrchips wrote:
I have Metzeler ME22s and they are not very confidence inspiring in the wet at all. Taking roundabouts I could take at 50 odd, taking them any more than 30 sees the back end sliding out. They didn't seem so bad the last time I was out in the wet but I have had the back end of her slide in out a few corners which has shattered my confidence somewhat.


Thanks for that, i am pretty much sure i am on Metzeler ME22s on the RXS100, i feel oh so confident now.
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PostPosted: 23:53 - 15 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a metzeler on the front of my mz. It's lovely in the dry, I havn't really pushed it in the wet, but it seems fine to me.

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PostPosted: 04:29 - 16 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

G gave this exact advice a while back on another thread - I've been doing it ever since and it has made such a difference to my confidence in the wet.

By shifting my upper body I can keep the bike more upright and can go that wee bit faster since I know the bike can still lean over without leaning too much, if you get my drift.

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