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Patriot180
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PostPosted: 15:44 - 15 Jul 2012    Post subject: Problems starting! Reply with quote

Hello to all!
I'm having a slight problem with a Honda CBF 600 I have recently purchased. When the bike got delivered on Friday the chap from the garage started it and it stuck up first time! I got it out of the shed today and tried to start it and it took some time to start. I left it running to warm up while giving it a good check over as it’s got 30 days warranty. The last thing I checked was the cut out switch when engaging first gear with the side stand down, sure enough the engine cut out. But since then it refuses to start up again!!

Any ideas what could be causing the problem, or is the some strange knack to starting the bike that I'm not aware of?

Thanks in advance
Graham
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 15 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure of the machine.
It may need the bike in neutral or the clutch lever pulled in.

Need more info. Does it turn over?
Does it turn over but not fire?

It will probably need a bit of choke and a little bit of throttle too. Less than 1/8 of a twist as you hit the start button.
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 15 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's been stood a while before you bought it maybe the battery needs a good charge.
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Patriot180
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 15 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper, its turns over but it just doesn't want to fire up! I've tried it with the clutch in and out, full choke, half choke, no choke a tiny amount of throttle and no throttle.

ThoughtControl, in attempting to start it the battery did start to die. So I took it out and put in on charge for about 3 hours but still no joy!

It’s supposed to of had a full service before the delivered it to me...but I'm starting to doubt that! Not sure if I might have flooded it in my frustration to start the bloody thing!
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PostPosted: 17:30 - 15 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe gunked up carbs so the engine is getting no fuel, so it can't start?

My bike was the same. Full throttle, no throttle, some throttle, full choke, no choke, charged battery + trickle charger connected. Couldn't start it. Had the problem a couple of times but never really thought anything of it.

After my bike leaked over a litre of fuel out of the airbox, I got the carbs cleaned and I've not had a problem since.

Disclaimer: I know sweet F.A. about mechanical stuff.
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 15 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.M. wrote:
Maybe gunked up carbs so the engine is getting no fuel, so it can't start?

My bike was the same. Full throttle, no throttle, some throttle, full choke, no choke, charged battery + trickle charger connected. Couldn't start it. Had the problem a couple of times but never really thought anything of it.

After my bike leaked over a litre of fuel out of the airbox, I got the carbs cleaned and I've not had a problem since.

Disclaimer: I know sweet F.A. about mechanical stuff.


Thanks for the info! I did think of that as I have no idea how long the petrol had been sitting in the tank for! I would have thought with having (supposedly) its 20k service they would have cleaned and checked the carbs! Think a phone call to the garage might be in order tomorrow if it’s still not playing ball!
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PostPosted: 17:56 - 15 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patriot180 wrote:
Walloper, its turns over but it just doesn't want to fire up! I've tried it with the clutch in and out, full choke, half choke, no choke a tiny amount of throttle and no throttle.

ThoughtControl, in attempting to start it the battery did start to die. So I took it out and put in on charge for about 3 hours but still no joy!

It’s supposed to of had a full service before the delivered it to me...but I'm starting to doubt that! Not sure if I might have flooded it in my frustration to start the bloody thing!


Did you speak to the seller?

Bet you didn't/couldn't cause it's the weekend.
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 15 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper, I tried but there not open today! Will be giving them a ring on the morrow!

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PostPosted: 18:53 - 15 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmmm, as it started then I think the carb issue can be ruled out.

Otherwise it wouldn't have started first of all,

As your problems starting came after fiddling with the kill switch and
side stand it be looking at those two places first, loose / corroded connection
or a jammed side stand switch is probably likely, if it had one..

But id say its more than likely a dodgy kill switch..

Cant be a coincidence that after using the kill switch it fails to start, no?
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Patriot180
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 15 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

kernow24 wrote:
hmmmm, as it started then I think the carb issue can be ruled out.

Otherwise it wouldn't have started first of all,

As your problems starting came after fiddling with the kill switch and
side stand it be looking at those two places first, loose / corroded connection
or a jammed side stand switch is probably likely, if it had one..

But id say its more than likely a dodgy kill switch..

Cant be a coincidence that after using the kill switch it fails to start, no?


This is very true!
Will give the side stand once over and try and see if its got a switch anywhere on it!
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 15 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patriot180 wrote:
kernow24 wrote:
hmmmm, as it started then I think the carb issue can be ruled out.

Otherwise it wouldn't have started first of all,

As your problems starting came after fiddling with the kill switch and
side stand it be looking at those two places first, loose / corroded connection
or a jammed side stand switch is probably likely, if it had one..

But id say its more than likely a dodgy kill switch..

Cant be a coincidence that after using the kill switch it fails to start, no?


This is very true!
Will give the side stand once over and try and see if its got a switch anywhere on it!


Aye. I had a Yamika Thunderfart wot used to be a dick end if it hit a speed bump at an inappropriate speed because the side-stand spring was a bit weak. It would hang down and trip the interlock switch.
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 15 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd go with kernow on this one, it started fine when it was delivered and only started to play up after checking its cut outs, bet a switch is stuck somewhere.
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 15 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the advice guys, will let you all know how I get on!
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 15 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

FWIW my cbr600 is carbed and it's really fussy about the choke setting...when the weather's really cold it barely starts on full choke but if its warm it needs just the slightest hint of choke and putting the choke back off within seconds.

If the engine's even slightly warm then the merest hint of choke and it won't have it.

Seems it's a bit of a knack knowing when/how much choke to use...
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 15 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this not a pull the clutch to start bike?
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PostPosted: 00:05 - 16 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

With my carbs when they were gunked up, I did a 60 mile ride the previous night but it wouldn't start in the morning.

After losing a litre of fuel through the airbox, the bike did finally start but one of the cylinders was running cooler than the other (apparently). Two cylinder bike if that's matters.

Theoretically if the carbs stuck whilst the engine was running, it could cut out due to lack of fuel?

That's what happened with me though, others know more. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 07:24 - 16 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fuel tap?




noones mentioned the fuel tap. it is this. assuming it has one. most carb bikes do.
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PostPosted: 09:09 - 16 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it's got a fuel tap? But I will double check! Going to have a go at starting it when I get back from work tonight! Hoping I had just flooded it!
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 16 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you looking spark.
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 30 Jul 2015    Post subject: Re: gpz1100 not starting Reply with quote

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Hi i brought my gpz1100 i got told the jets may need cleaning but i went for a ride on it before i went on hoilday for 2 weeks and it run fine, then i come back off my hoilday and started it up and it started pissing out petrol from the over flows so i stripped the carbs and cleaned them all and put them back together and now the bike wont start its just like the starter motor is trying to engage but cant and like the batterys dead but lights all work and iv tryed a new battery but still nothink but i relised it was on a (pri)setting on the petrol tap which i gaver is a prime of some sort so i put it on the on setting but still nothinks happening but it looks like its flooding out of exhausts can anyone help please thank you for reading


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PostPosted: 14:18 - 30 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 14:50 - 30 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patriot180 wrote:
Walloper, its turns over but it just doesn't want to fire up!


Well now, is the kill switch on the right handlebar in the ON position? The killswitch on the CB-1 I used to have, just cut off the ignition and the starter could still be used to spin the engine with no spark. Thumbs Up

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