CBT TODAY

[NEWBIKER123]

Hi everyone i had my cbt today, i had never ridden two wheels, although have driving license. started on a geared bike, now gear and clutch wasnt a problem.

the only problem was that doing the figure eight, i was using the throttle wrong, i could get hang of the throttle, for example i seemed over eager on throttle, but when i let off seem to go too slow, could i not find a balance.

Also i could not hold throttle, instructor kept saying hold throttle and use break to control speed.

Anyone else had this problem?

I abandoned the geared bike and completed on the moped. im now wondering if this was a mistake, as i didnt enjoy my time on the moped and now have decided 100% im getting geared bike.
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[Clanger]

It's all about control at slow speed.

Have you not spent any time on a push-bike at all? Slowing right down, standing on the pedals using the brake to keep balance. It's pretty much the same.

As for did I have trouble. No.
I did my CBT and then DAS in the same week. But then I had many years road experience beforehand.
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[NEWBIKER123]

hi clanger

I didnt have a problem balancing the bike at slow speeds, it was purely controlling the throttle, it seems very light, small twitches in wrist meant changes in speed, ended up being jumpy, i had no problem slowign right down as was evident when i went on the scooter.

also didnt have any problem with the throttle on scooter.
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[andy_uk]

They should have told you to slip the clutch too, so when you increased the revs the bike wouldn't lurch forward.
The scooter/moped would be a "twist'n'go" with (for want of better description) a variable clutch, hence it being easier to control.

When you get your geared bike, just get yourself into a car park and practice. Have the clutch just at biting point, revs medium to high and practice speeding up and slowing down (in 1st gear) just with the rear brake.
You'll soon get the hang of it.
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[shereen]

[NEWBIKER123]

Ok he did not mention enything about slipping the clutch.

Sorry i might ound thick but what do you guys mean by slipping the clutch when increasing the revs.

So basically when increasing rev on throttle loosen grip on clutch?
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[andy_uk]

'Slipping the clutch' means to keep it at biting point and don't let it any further out. When you increase revs, the bike will slowly speed up instead of jerking. Then when you use the rear brake to slow down, the engine won't stall.
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[NEWBIKER123]

Hi everyone thanks for the help, and mrb3n thanks i will no doubt need alot of help.

Im doing this so i can get to a from work faster, and cheaper (than public transport), i think im going to practice more, slow control, before i do venture on open road, or do you guys reccommend i take to the road but just take things slow?


On a positive ive bought my helmet today, 69 pounds, the only issue ive got is worried about visor and glasses misting up.

Thanks
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[recman]

Just leave the chin vent open (if it has one) and leave the visor open on the first notch.

[Andrew122]

[Ayrton]

I dont think he should have stuck you on a moped. If you cant handle gears, he should have got you back for a second day after you thought about it all and could give it another go. He probably just wanted you passed and gone.

Dont worry about the helmet misting up. Mine does it when stopped at lights, but you learn to flip it up, or partially up when stopped. Once you get over 15mph any mist seems to stop imediatly.

[Rogerborg]

Surprise surprise, another poor CBT experience where they just get you out on the road rather than actually imparting the Basic Training that you've paid for.

Slow speed stuff can be tricky, but the advice here (and on my excellent CBT) is good. Personally I've never even used the rear brake for slow speed stuff, just the throttle and clutch, but try it both ways. The clutch is key either way though.
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[thepuma]

My CBT instructor was crap to be honest. I pretty much used the rear brake 90% of the time and he never pulled me up on it. Felt like he was trying to rush through the morning so we could get out on the road. The figure of 8 and emergency stops were a 5 minute rush and the initial area where you learnt your first stop/start etc was small with very tight bends before the junctions, which, when you've only just learnt how to start a bike is very difficult to master at slow speed.

The instructor seemed more bothered about telling us about his hobbies than making sure we were progressing. I only got by because I already understood clutch control from driving cars, the other lad on the course really struggled and mainly because of poor tuition and things not being explained well.....I ended up having to help the lad whilst the instructor took one (of many) calls on his mobile phone.

He was also unprofessional, shouting at the other lad when he couldn't get on with the gears and also slagging off previous cbt pupils who had messed up in the past.

I must say that whilst I enjoyed the fact I'd gotten on a bike andpassed the cbt, I found it a very frustrating, unproductive and unprofessional experience all round and I certainly won't be giving that place any of my money for lessons or DAS or anything, cos I genuinely believe Id learn more from watching clips on YouTub
I don't think I should name the centre as I wouldnt want it to affect their business in what is a difficult time for any company, but I do feel for anyone attending that has never driven a car or ridden a bike before, because they will find it an even steeper learning curve that it already is.

I'm doing my CBTPlus soon and hopefully they will install a bit of confidence in me that was saddly lost with the cowboy CBT instructor I had.

I felt I passed more 'inspite' of the training rather than 'because' of the training.

I wonder if anyone else felt the same with their CBT day?
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[maxray]

I had mine yesterday with Sutton Motorcycles near Bromsgrove. They were really good and focused loads on the slow bike control.

Thoroughly enjoyed the day and looking forward to moving onto a DAS course.

[Rogerborg]

[Ayrton]

[Alpha-9]

I did my CBT with Shires Motorcycle Training Leicester and they were great.

Nothing more to add to that, barely remember much of the day other than failing at roundabouts.

You always remember a bad experience and share it, but the good ones get forgotten about, rule 1 of customer service
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[TZR-125 mad]

[quote="NEWBIKER123"]Ok he did not mention enything about slipping the clutch.

Sorry i might ound thick but what do you guys mean by slipping the clutch when increasing the revs.

So basically when increasing rev on throttle loosen grip on clutch?[/quot

if this helps i would say, when you increase throttle pull the clutch in slightly i wouldnt recomend to much because you dont want to be riding the clutch and wouldnt give it too less because you dont want to flip the bike so...little throttle=lot of clutch, little clutch=more throttle hope that helps
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[jeddy11]

Wouldn't worry about riding the clutch they sit in oil and are designed to be slipped / ridden ? / abused so i was told..

Best way it was described to me rev up the bike and keep the revs constant then use the clutch to speed up slow down while maintaining the same high revs..so using the clutch rather than the throttle to accelerate / decelerate .
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[Rogerborg]