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PostPosted: 22:12 - 14 Aug 2012    Post subject: what to do with a nutter Reply with quote

Hey maters

here is a strange one for you. Got a pic from a woman her hand full of pins in a home made tatoo of a heart. Makes me think it is a nutter thinking of offing herself.

Makes no sense without background and I dont know what is important or not, so will tell what I think matters, but may be irrelvant to you.

She is the widow of an old friend, but not the original x. Old eastern cape crowd. She appeared out of no where. First time I heard of her was the night he died. And I was the last of our old group to see him alive. None of the old eastern crowd had ever seen her or even heard of her either. Seems wierd he wouldnt tell his oldest friends and those he saw most. But people who knew him like party mates had seen her with him, so it is not some stranger. But alarm bells.

Now this is the eastern cape. A huge area but only 100 000 whites and most are in Port Elizabeth and East London. In every town i go I will know some one., and if I walk into a hotel now 15 years after moving away, in most towns someone will recognise me. So obviously this woman is not so difficult to get info on. Found out she is friends of the sister of someone I knew. But her family is totally unknown. Now this sister married an Indian muslim, and when she brought him home the old man physically picked him up and dumped him on the pavement outside and told his daughter never to bring her 'koelie' to his house and was written off. The woman I refer to also attended muslim classes but never converted. For me that is also alarm bells. It is NOT something done in the conservative right wing rural eastern cape.

being a mate's 'loved one' but at the time I thought I was bbming the first x, I was kind and helpful after the death. Needless to say, I was shocked to see I was dealing with a totaly different woman. The circumstances of the death were also not as she had said. Too many pieces didnt fit and some of the locals took me aside and told me it is not as she says. Nothing criminal, but overly dramatised and she was only something on the side, not what she made herself out to be. Again eastern cape old boy network. You cant easily cover up things. after the funeral she asked if I can pillion her back to the transvaal. ms I said OK but do you have a place to stay there? I got yes, old friends, they will take me in, call when we get there and they will come collcet her from my house etc... I asked for their number so I could call them and 'get directions'. I got my phone in broken, cant get the number off etc. I replied put your sim card in mine and we can get the number. Got Excuses. So I figured I will get stuck with this fraud/nutter and didnt do it.

She eventually came up here anyway. rented a room in a boarding house, came to visit blah blah blah. And i realised she never had anywhere to go here. or why be in a boarding house?

Then she asked can she move into my outside flat. I said no, you dont have a job here, no transport etc. Then i started getting all this drama on my phone like woman emotional garbage. I didnt respond except to say i dont do drama. She moved far away to another province. In a while the lovey dovey stuff , are you the love of my life stuff started to pick up.

And now the tatoo of a heart in the palm. Nuts.

Now how far does loyalty extend? Old east cape thing again. Im wondering if she is in the offing herself mindset. Shame. Dont want that, but cant have her moving in here either. I dont even want a girlfriend here, nor do I want a girlfriend or relationship. Im happy as I am. She has to realise I am not interested in any romantic relationship, and quite a few of the nutter messages have in effect said that. She also did say she learnt a lot from me and I heleped her a lot.

So is it delete? Dont think so as it will drive her over the edge being so alone

Keep on helping her talking shit

Or just ignore all the emotioanl BS and drama and just reply, hope you are well, getting your life sorted kind of stuff

I have so far been doing the 3rd and ignored the past few blatant drama like teh tatoo, a pic saying I cant wait to see the red light and know its a message from you etc


I dont want drama from any woman. I dont want emotional mumbo jumbo. And I dont want nutiness.

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PostPosted: 22:33 - 14 Aug 2012    Post subject: , Reply with quote

walk away mate, you dont need to carry any guilt or responsibility for the state of someone you dont really know. We spend enough time when we are young dealing with headcases. When we are older we need to keep away from it
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 14 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't want nuttiness then I'd politely suggest you find a new country, dated a few Saffers over the years and without exception they've been utter head cases. Nice women but utter, utter lunatics Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 14 Aug 2012    Post subject: Re: , Reply with quote

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walk away mate, you dont need to carry any guilt or responsibility for the state of someone you dont really know. We spend enough time when we are young dealing with headcases. When we are older we need to keep away from it


For sure. A home made tatoo with pins in your palm. FFS Shocked


This is for for beyond anything I would have imagined.

Being single is so lekka Mr. Green

If I wanted to be lonely I would have stayed married Mr. Green

If I wanted drama and grief and being sucked dry I would be with previous girlfriends Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 14 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tarmacsurfer wrote:
If you don't want nuttiness then I'd politely suggest you find a new country, dated a few Saffers over the years and without exception they've been utter head cases. Nice women but utter, utter lunatics Laughing


i must agree. The last one was british, but born in SA. Also entitlement attention seeker. I think SA must have gotten to her Mr. Green Wasnt much different than the afrikaans ones end of the day...
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PostPosted: 22:44 - 14 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eh blame the bloody kaffas bru!
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 14 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 23:47 - 14 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi mate

Walk away and change your number if you can!!

Trust me when i say this!..(she was kinda muslim/lebanese decent)

I had a similar incident with a women me and the misses helped out!,basically she and her son were being abused by the partner.

We lived under thier flat and heard plenty!,and waited untill we could take it no more..
The son was being molested and the women was being beaten to the point her hair was left in patches of blood in the bathroom and various other ambush areas around her flat.

He was a real piece of work and i told her oneday that he was BENT,yep as queer as a dragqueen.
Her reply was "i've been with him 8yrs i'd have known".

(He would walk shoulder to shoulder and was hard to get separation from ,and other various odd stuff that screamed batty boy!)

(I hate my personnal space being that violated! ,and to anyone who has half a brain!
It was clear that he would beat on her because he was ashamed of his sexuality, and would take it out on her, rather than admit what he was...)

Well it turned out she confronted him! with the subtle Very Happy "are you queer" question,and his reply was as you would expect! "fuck off" and he stormed out to his FRIENDS flat (yep boyfriend)(downstairs).

He came back 2hrs later and said to her "how do you know im not just Bi"!
Well that summed it up for her! (along with other things she overlooked in the past as just weird things).(a liking to enima treatments,that he would get her to insert)..

Next day she caught him fondeling her sons grapes! and she went mental!!!, he stormed downstairs to his boyfriends and told her she was just mental and didn't see anything!.

She stayed with us for a couple of days to cool off and then moved back upstairs, but it only got worse.

Her son tried to jump out of the flat window(6 floors up) when he saw his dad comming home! ,we stepped in!then arranged to have her moved into a hostel for women etc...

This is when the strange stuff got wierd!,she mistook a gesture of friendship and help for more!...

soulmate,marriage,kids etc etc etc(txts,cards etc)

Well i told the misses all about it from day 1!,we kept in contact trying to remain friends for her sake,i even had her over in one of the kids school holidays so she could get away from it all!.

This was a step too far !,she just became aggressive and possesive towards me and OFF with my misses!, who was supposed to be her friend!.(her body clock was ticking loudly by then)

I dumped her in the car, and drove her home !,and since have never replied to her!, and also i've since moved house/area(not because of her though)but its helped!.

I feel sorry for her, but i made my position clear in a nice manner(from the minute i suspected something wierd)! but you really have to just cut ALL ties!!! let them cope on thier own as its the only way they can get help by forcing them to stand on thier own feet.

good luck mate and steer clear!!....

sorry for the long winded backround!

After she left,he moved back in upstairs!
Then made our life a misery!, with banging loudly against the floor!! and listerning to our conversations and waiting till he heard us putting our kid to bed, then banging on the ceiling like he was banging 6inch nails through the floor with plaster falling off!

He even knew about my misses being pregnant again before anyone else!

I went upstairs to CHAT and got the door slammed in my face with the response "go away stephen".
I went to his boyfriends flat and explained about how i was going to skin his lover if he didnt step in and sort his boytoy out!

we eventually abandoned the flat as the council wouldnt help us!
dispite witness statments from other tennants!

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PostPosted: 08:15 - 15 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

She is lookking for someone to put up with her goings on, she is only after attention and a free room.
She will never do enough to do herself real harm just enough to cause a drama for the attention.

Don't walk away.............. RUN away as fast as you can.
Tell here straight that you don't do dead mates ex sperm catchers.
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PostPosted: 08:51 - 15 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chalky. wrote:
Eh blame the bloody kaffas bru!


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PostPosted: 09:05 - 15 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

titan666 wrote:
Hi mate

Walk away and change your number if you can!!

Trust me when i say this!..(she was kinda muslim/lebanese decent)

I had a similar incident with a women me and the misses helped out!,basically she and her son were being abused by the partner.

We lived under thier flat and heard plenty!,and waited untill we could take it no more..
The son was being molested and the women was being beaten to the point her hair was left in patches of blood in the bathroom and various other ambush areas around her flat.

He was a real piece of work and i told her oneday that he was BENT,yep as queer as a dragqueen.
Her reply was "i've been with him 8yrs i'd have known".

(He would walk shoulder to shoulder and was hard to get separation from ,and other various odd stuff that screamed batty boy!)

(I hate my personnal space being that violated! ,and to anyone who has half a brain!
It was clear that he would beat on her because he was ashamed of his sexuality, and would take it out on her, rather than admit what he was...)

Well it turned out she confronted him! with the subtle Very Happy "are you queer" question,and his reply was as you would expect! "fuck off" and he stormed out to his FRIENDS flat (yep boyfriend)(downstairs).

He came back 2hrs later and said to her "how do you know im not just Bi"!
Well that summed it up for her! (along with other things she overlooked in the past as just weird things).(a liking to enima treatments,that he would get her to insert)..

Next day she caught him fondeling her sons grapes! and she went mental!!!, he stormed downstairs to his boyfriends and told her she was just mental and didn't see anything!.

She stayed with us for a couple of days to cool off and then moved back upstairs, but it only got worse.

Her son tried to jump out of the flat window(6 floors up) when he saw his dad comming home! ,we stepped in!then arranged to have her moved into a hostel for women etc...

This is when the strange stuff got wierd!,she mistook a gesture of friendship and help for more!...

soulmate,marriage,kids etc etc etc(txts,cards etc)

Well i told the misses all about it from day 1!,we kept in contact trying to remain friends for her sake,i even had her over in one of the kids school holidays so she could get away from it all!.

This was a step too far !,she just became aggressive and possesive towards me and OFF with my misses!, who was supposed to be her friend!.(her body clock was ticking loudly by then)

I dumped her in the car, and drove her home !,and since have never replied to her!, and also i've since moved house/area(not because of her though)but its helped!.

I feel sorry for her, but i made my position clear in a nice manner(from the minute i suspected something wierd)! but you really have to just cut ALL ties!!! let them cope on thier own as its the only way they can get help by forcing them to stand on thier own feet.

good luck mate and steer clear!!....

sorry for the long winded backround!

After she left,he moved back in upstairs!
Then made our life a misery!, with banging loudly against the floor!! and listerning to our conversations and waiting till he heard us putting our kid to bed, then banging on the ceiling like he was banging 6inch nails through the floor with plaster falling off!

He even knew about my misses being pregnant again before anyone else!

I went upstairs to CHAT and got the door slammed in my face with the response "go away stephen".
I went to his boyfriends flat and explained about how i was going to skin his lover if he didnt step in and sort his boytoy out!

we eventually abandoned the flat as the council wouldnt help us!
dispite witness statments from other tennants!

steve


Fark, that is serious nutiness.....Luckily I live on a big property and cant hear neighbours, but have also had a fair share of nutters try to move when you help them, and they see it as a sign of 'true love'.
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PostPosted: 09:20 - 15 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
She is lookking for someone to put up with her goings on, she is only after attention and a free room.
She will never do enough to do herself real harm just enough to cause a drama for the attention.

Don't walk away.............. RUN away as fast as you can.
Tell here straight that you don't do dead mates ex sperm catchers.


I think you are right about the attention seeking. One sure sign is at the funeral she didnt give the eulogy. She asked one of us to do it. Strange from someone procliaming it was 'true love', but in a small town of less than 200 whites, and many old mates she didnt even know existed, it can't be pulled off as every one knows the truth. Funny enough, even in that town when I walked in people knew from comon friends lol. Then it was how can I live without him boo hoo. Now it is true love again, but the horrible man doesnt return it. Drama.

Everytime I hear a woman proclaiming true love these days, especially nutters, I want to burst out laughing. It is never accompanied by any talk of common values, morals, goals, shared responsibilities etc... any of the real stuff. It is usually followed by it is true love, money doesnt matter and all that nonsense. But when there is no food for the kids, and no roof over your head, or when reality hits, true love becomes true hate that lasts longer than the true love ever did.

Huis Genoot, You, and those other magazines and romance books peddling true love to women should be banned as emotional porn and grist for the mill of nutters and dreamy girls. It is always shit like:

What he should do if he really loved you (read entitlement mentality)

10 ways to catch your dream man (read thinking with your fanny and ignoring the real foundations)

How to make your soul mate love you (as if doing aerobics, and wasting money on even more jewelery and clothing will chage his feelings)

That kind of nonsense must break up more marriages than it ever fixes. I guess it was never 'true love' then...bwahahaha!!

Havent replied to the nutter.
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 15 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell her in no uncertain terms that you are not interested in her, you are happy by yourself and that she needs to stop contacting you. Then change your phone number if needs be. Don't give her anything to latch on to (no "Im seeing someone, we can be friends") as this will exacerbate the mental and you could end up with a screaming banshee turning up on your doorstep.

I would probably avoid telling her that you think she is a nutcase.....

But nip this in the bud before she starts creating collages of your face made from your rubbish.
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 15 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude you owe her nothing and she has lied through her teeth.

Tell her she's a nutter and tell she needs to go to get some help and tell her leave you alone .She is trouble coz she's mental.

Or probably the best thing to do is take her into the bush and feed her to lions .No more problem for you and she won't be mental or unhappy anymore. Wish we had wild lions.

Mate you got to stop this now and do it in a hard unpleasant way so she doesn't come back.
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 15 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just ask yourself: WWJD?

What Would Joseph Goebbels Do.

"East Cape loyalty" means "all white = all right", amirite?

You know fine well you need to sack her off and wait for nature to take its course.
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 15 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kradmelder wrote:
Huis Genoot, You, and those other magazines and romance books peddling true love to women should be banned as emotional porn and grist for the mill of nutters and dreamy girls.


Were it not for the race tirades you go off on, I'd consider myself to be on largely the same wavelength as you, purely based upon this statement.

Everyone's so worked up about the media's glorification of thin women that they've never bothered to examine the fact that the press are trying to completely butcher the psychological profile of women at the same time - personally, I consider this to be the more important issue.

I don't claim that women are all subject to this sort of crap - indeed; I wouldn't waste my time on anyone that was into the trashy magazines that go on about soap operas and chav romance, but the point remains that a lot of the easily-swayed populace is into this dross, and I'm confident that it's causing the steady degradation of independent thought.

Fight club seemed to lodge the idea that we aren't ever going to be much more than wage slaves in the male psyche - there needs to be some kind of similar effort on behalf of women.
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 15 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

waffles wrote:
Tell her in no uncertain terms that you are not interested in her, you are happy by yourself and that she needs to stop contacting you. Then change your phone number if needs be. Don't give her anything to latch on to (no "Im seeing someone, we can be friends") as this will exacerbate the mental and you could end up with a screaming banshee turning up on your doorstep.

I would probably avoid telling her that you think she is a nutcase.....

But nip this in the bud before she starts creating collages of your face made from your rubbish.


Did the bit about Im happy alone, but just got in return can have someone like her, not the same as the others etc. LOL.


Thankfully there is about 700 km distance and she has no transport Laughing

But she does know a lot of my friends, so ducking isnt an option. The ignore option leads to spate of bbms then silence. Mr. Green

No GF on the cards for me...... Ive already had my kids, so no need for more than casual daliances unless someone is worth it, and it wont be 'true love' Mr. Green . There seems to be plenty of available women around, but mostly available for a reason.


Ive been on the path of nutters before, and yes the best thing is never give them something to latch on to. They will soon find another 'true love' who is not wary.
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PostPosted: 12:48 - 15 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Just ask yourself: WWJD?

What Would Joseph Goebbels Do.

"East Cape loyalty" means "all white = all right", amirite?

You know fine well you need to sack her off and wait for nature to take its course.


Not quite. This one is white, but not all right. White liberals are not common and usually come from outside. They are treated lika a conagious disease Laughing EC loyalty is probably more like your british old boys and school tie thing. Doubt you would find a labour agitator in that set? It is mixed in with sub clans of police and army, farming, blue collar background, afrikaans vs english (but this is far less than in the rest of SA and mixed english afrikaans is the norm), etc. The EC has traditionally been the poorest province and most rural. And was the scene of much of the armed terrorism as it is a border area. Always has been since the days of the 9 Kaffir Wars.

Consequently, I would say a far higher proportion of the men went to the security forces and far fewer were conscientious objectors, compared to places like Cape Town which are liberal, and never had any blacks.

It is also the first settlement of the british settlers, so has a strong english component, and these english are NOT liberal, like the english of cape town and joberg who lived a sheltered existence.

It is a type of SA subculture. Just like Cape Town is one. Or like you brits have regional ones.
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PostPosted: 14:32 - 15 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Totally off topic, I'm glad you've hung around here. Don't always agree with your views but there's often some interesting things posted. I just wish that I could stop reading your posts according to the guidelines of this Laughing

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PostPosted: 15:18 - 15 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Don't always agree with your views but there's often some interesting things posted.

I entirely agree, TS. I just find the race rants to be tiresome and irritating. Krad's ride reports across the Transvaal and the like were very interesting, and worth a look. Plus the man knows his way around a barbecue Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 15 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Tarmacsurfer wrote:
Don't always agree with your views but there's often some interesting things posted.

I entirely agree, TS. I just find the race rants to be tiresome and irritating. Krad's ride reports across the Transvaal and the like were very interesting, and worth a look. Plus the man knows his way around a barbecue Laughing


Did some one say race? Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 15 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Did some one say race? Mr. Green

No, in this thread you haven't, and as such, I'm more than happy to participate. To clarify my stance - I get that whites and blacks in many areas of SA are typically at each other's throats. I can't really moan about your descriptions of social behaviour, because I've never been to SA (and in truth, I don't really have any intention to).

My complaint is that your posting style assumes that all black people across the world behave in the same manner as they do in your immediate and local experience. Despite the protestations of the likes of WULFSTAN, there's a distinctly higher level of integration over here, which is generally regarded as normal.

I like the content of most of your posts - you lead a life that's very different to most of ours, and your experiences are usually quite interesting to hear about. I'm not impressed by the consistent and repeated use of 'darkie this' and 'darkie that' which comes up in your posts, and that's why I originally set you as an enemy - it's not a comment on your character, it's a spam filter, and it did the job. However, I find myself enjoying a lot of what you write, once I've mentally edited out the borderline supremacist rhetoric. Is there any chance that you could at least agree to dial down the racial commentary overall? It's not something that's generally regarded as acceptable over here, and I have to admit, regardless of the fact that it screams 'PC' (which is something I despise), it's social policy that I agree with. Judge individuals on their actions, not whole swathes of humanity by association.
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PostPosted: 01:11 - 16 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

FFS Eksay.
Is she fit? If so do her.
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