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Will the Pentagon get their man?
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PostPosted: 08:52 - 17 Aug 2012    Post subject: Wikileaks vs CIA Reply with quote

So putting aside the legal claptrap surrounding Assange and the Ecuadorian embassy, do you think Assange will end up being rendered to the good ol' US of A.

Personally I think he's fooked, despite remaining silent on the issue, the moment Assange emerges from diplomatic limbo, (assuming he's still there), Uncle Sam's going to grab him by the nut sack and drag him, kicking and screaming to an underground facility where he will be introduced to his new friend scopolamine and zombified!
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PostPosted: 08:55 - 17 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ja he is buggered. he cant get out of the embassy to get to ecuador. barring something like die Juden having a vested interest and Jerusalem ordering washington to let him go, and the yanks doing likewise to the brits, Assange can't get out.
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PostPosted: 09:01 - 17 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's fucked, and not only is he fucked he was totally deluded to think he was going to get away with what he was doing.

But maybe he thought what he was doing was worth it for the punishment he is going to receive?

As I understand it, they can't walk in and take him and they can't take him while he's in a car registered to the embassy, so as soon as he steps foot out of the car they can take him.

Unless they invoke this "removal of rights" on the embassy that has been mentioned in the news.
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PostPosted: 09:03 - 17 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ja he is buggered. he cant get out of the embassy to get to ecuador. barring something like die Juden having a vested interest and Jerusalem ordering washington to let him go, and the yanks doing likewise to the brits, Assange can't get out.

Well, if Ecuador were to grant him citizenship and then assign him to the embassy staff he would have diplomatic immunity to at least get to the airport. Failing that they could put him in a crate and ship him out in the diplomatic baggage. There's always more than one way to skin a cat.

...but generally he's stuffed, with snatch squads and all that!
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PostPosted: 09:13 - 17 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

J4mes wrote:
He's fucked, and not only is he fucked he was totally deluded to think he was going to get away with what he was doing.

But maybe he thought what he was doing was worth it for the punishment he is going to receive?

As I understand it, they can't walk in and take him and they can't take him while he's in a car registered to the embassy, so as soon as he steps foot out of the car they can take him.

Unless they invoke this "removal of rights" on the embassy that has been mentioned in the news.


Maybe not so stupid. If he is snatched the spotlight will be on it, and Yank bully boy terrorist tactics will be in the open. Assange is not a Bin Laden that the world would not care when they invade another nation (pakistan) without informing the nation and take someone out.

He has made sure the global spotlight is on it. It depends how little the yanks care about global image.

For the Brits to revoke the embassy status over minor sex offences, would get everyone asking why. Surely that is not the real reason. They are being manipulated by the real people that want him.

So the Brit government is also farked. To win and go and grab him, they lose and look like puppets.

The clever way out would be to pay off those women to drop teh charges, then the swedes would have no reason to ask for extradition, the Brits could do nothing, and the yanks would have to do their own dirty work.
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PostPosted: 09:20 - 17 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thing is, everyone knows what's going on. They know that we know. We know that they know that we know.

I don't think it makes any difference! I don't think the yanks care. They want him, they are going to get him.
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PostPosted: 09:22 - 17 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only reason, I can see, that the red necks didn't have Assange extradited from the UK is that they came to an agreement with the UK government to avoid embarrassment and not to, publicly, damage the "special relationship", (AKA master and poodle).

Once he's on the plane all bets are off.
I wonder what odds the bookies are giving on him being extradited to the USA? Pretty short I'd imagine!
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PostPosted: 09:47 - 17 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suntan Sid wrote:
The only reason, I can see, that the red necks didn't have Assange extradited from the UK is that they came to an agreement with the UK government to avoid embarrassment and not to, publicly, damage the "special relationship", (AKA master and poodle).

Once he's on the plane all bets are off.
I wonder what odds the bookies are giving on him being extradited to the USA? Pretty short I'd imagine!


In a way it covers the Brits, and they hide behind 'just complying with swedish extradition'. But if the swedes hand him over to the yanks, the always neutral swedes look like poodles.

In a way Assange is exposing a lot more in this drama than he does on wiki leaks.

The yanks must use an Al qaeda style media vilification of him to try and justify their state terror tactics. Only Assange doesnt wear a towel on his head so painting him as prime evil isnt so easy. So far they havent managed to convince the masses that Assange is all that evil.

The yanks could easily up the pressure. 7 jews collectively control ABC, NBC, CBS, the Turner Broadcasting System, CNN, as well as most of the independent newspapers. Toss some shekels their way, or as money to israel, and the media frenzy will start.

The same can be said for british media, with BBC radio under abramsky, Sky and news international under Murdoch, Express newspapers under desmond, and associated newspapers under Zittler.

All it takes is some well placed shekels to control public opnion.
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PostPosted: 10:04 - 17 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's all a stage op anyway. He's a useful idiot to funnel whatever "leaked info" the black propaganda boys need for the next foreign excursion.

They just burned a few of their own 'copter boys to kick off the operation with the perception of credibility.
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PostPosted: 10:07 - 17 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Zionist lobby won't be that interested in turning up the heat, since the material wikileaks releases is no real danger to Israel.
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PostPosted: 10:16 - 17 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThoughtControl wrote:
The Zionist lobby won't be that interested in turning up the heat, since the material wikileaks releases is no real danger to Israel.


Assange wouldnt dare. They would paint him out to be the next Hitler out for another holocaust if he ever exposed the shenanigans and manipulations of those bandits.

But you are right. The whole thing stinks of a staged set up. It is too much like no win, and a pretext for something else. Like the whole Iraq WMD Al qaeda link hoax.

Trick is figure out who benefits. Then you will know who does the crime. For sure this is not about his sexual escapades.
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PostPosted: 10:19 - 17 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

wiki leaks is back online!
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 17 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, Wikileaks, who cares? The story is all about Assange now: when's the last time you saw the legacy media actually reporting on any Wikileaks content?

He does have a definite "cult leader rapey" air to him, it has to be said.
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 17 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even if he gets to Ecuador, he will probably meet a strange and nasty end like those Iranian nuclear scientists whose cars accidentally blew up, or that other one who was accidentally shot by a motorcyclist who accidentally had a gun that was accidentally pointed at him.
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 17 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he goes Ecuador he's humped. He'll just be taken in the night or his flight will be redirected on his way there etc.
Here, as long as the cameras are on him, he's fine. I think the Yanks want all the attention off him. When "we don't care" (I don't anyway) nobody will think it's news and then there might be something in the news about a broken window at an Ecuadorian Embassy somewhere in Great England-Land
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PostPosted: 13:46 - 17 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd imagine the Yanks are quite content with having all the media attention focussed on Assange rather than on Wikileaks itself. Job done.
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 17 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet the Septics buy him out and he starts leaking the 'secrets' they want the world to know about....
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PostPosted: 16:47 - 17 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

He will go to Sweden and get a trial for the crimes against the women he has commited.
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PostPosted: 16:57 - 17 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helicopter, snatch him out a window, fly to Ecuador, eat a banana.

Possible?
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 19 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm starting to suspect he's dodgy now. I'm certainly thinking that is more believable than the USA extraditing him and executing him. Traditionally the US has never aimed to extradite spies, and that is what he would be tried as.

Not only this, he seems to be suspiciously clinging to Ecuador, when Ecuador is one of the more likely candidates for an illegal rendition to the US.

Sweden on the other hand is full of Scandinavian peaceniks, has a high tech military and air force, is surrounded by other European contries with high tech militaries and air forces, does not like capital punishment, will have to obey EU human rights legislation etc etc....

Ecuador doesn't have ANY of those things. It has to be far easier to snatch him from Ecuador than it does from Sweden. Sweden has to be less likely to extradite him to the US than the UK is... and Ecuador for that matter.

It all smells a bit off to me. Its starting to look like he is a sex attacker...
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 19 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
I'm starting to suspect he's dodgy now. I'm certainly thinking that is more believable than the USA extraditing him and executing him. Traditionally the US has never aimed to extradite spies, and that is what he would be tried as.

Not only this, he seems to be suspiciously clinging to Ecuador, when Ecuador is one of the more likely candidates for an illegal rendition to the US.

Sweden on the other hand is full of Scandinavian peaceniks, has a high tech military and air force, is surrounded by other European contries with high tech militaries and air forces, does not like capital punishment, will have to obey EU human rights legislation etc etc....

Ecuador doesn't have ANY of those things. It has to be far easier to snatch him from Ecuador than it does from Sweden. Sweden has to be less likely to extradite him to the US than the UK is... and Ecuador for that matter.

It all smells a bit off to me. Its starting to look like he is a sex attacker...


Interesting perspective on it.

I guess we will have to wait for wiki leaks to publish the relevant USA and Swedish documents Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:11 - 19 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Watch this:-

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PostPosted: 22:42 - 19 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
It all smells a bit off to me. Its starting to look like he is a sex attacker...

He's pretty much painted himself as guilty by going on the run, granted he has other reasons but I wouldn't be surprised if he was guilty.
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PostPosted: 23:06 - 19 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I reckon he's in line for a PoloniChoccamocha. One way or another, the yanks are gonna do for him. Gotta have an example set !
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PostPosted: 23:33 - 19 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fully support what Julian is doing.

The actions of the American legal system and MOD are totally uncalled for.

In a world where info is available instantly and the "safety in numbers" thing, the governments haven't moved with the times.
They are still dreaming of the good ol' days before the internet.

What they are doing has no place in the modern world.
They start bang on about "national security" when the greatest risk to American is America it's self.

By behaving like this, it isn't a surprise people want to expose their actions.

I've got more to rant about but i CBA right now.
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