Personal Injury advertisement

[DrSnoosnoo]

Alreet everyone?

With fear of getting bashed I'm going to write this here and ask for your opinions and ideas.

My Mum works for a Personal Injury Solicitor's, I'm not going to say which so I'm not flogging stuff. They give out freebies to people to help promote the business like key rings with the logo on and Air fresheners for cars and the like. Obviously this is in the hope if these people have a crash or fall or whatever, they'll go to this company for advise and a claim.

Now she's asked me, What could be done for cyclists/motorcyclists? I've thought that a big sticker on your fairing of "INSERT SOLICITORS NAME" wouldn't be too catchy for people to do, so what I ask is:

What could be suitable for this type of promotion on motorcycles and/or cycles? And if any of you guys would use them, if given them?

I understand I will get people bashing the whole personal injury industry, and don't worry I hate it but my Mum is just trying to do her job so any help would be appreciated.

Sam
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[UnknownStuntm...]

"This ambulance is sponsored by Slimwits & Co. Crash Compensation"

Then actually give the NHS some money for ambulances.

[h00dwink]

Side stand pucks are the normal hand out from trade shows and the like.
Can't think of anything else that would be of use that I would keep with or put on the bike.
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[soforene]

Personal Injury Solicitors.

Right up there with Estate Agents, Bankers and Peado's.

Why do you think Insurance costs have gone through the roof?
Cus of these leeches.

[DrSnoosnoo]

Sidestand puck, good one cheers!
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[DrSnoosnoo]

[DrDonnyBrago]

Keyrings, pens, stickers etc get binned.

A wee plastic card to keep in your wallet with instructions of what to do in the event of an accident might be useful (i.e. don't admit fault, take photos etc). I have a printed one in mine.

Maybe a disposable camera if they are cheap enough. Small notepad and pen for witness details in the event of a prang?

Failing that, a hand grenade and a self addressed envelope .


EDIT: I wear a brass pet tag (like what dogs have) with my name, address and GF's phone number on it attached to the main zip of my jacket. Maybe something similar but plastic and a bit of paper inside?

[UnknownStuntm...]

I see insurance as another form of tax. You have to pay for it, there are no excuses. The way our insurance companies continue to screw it's 'customers' over, either by welching out of claims, agreeing to 50-50 settlements, and hoicking up premiums after a claim means that parasites can develop. One such parasite is the personal injury claim service offered by solicitors. And the way your insurance company can sell your details off to one of these leeches in the event of an accident physically sickens me.

Insurance companies are just taking money off each other in this dog-eat-dog world, and the only way it's possible (on the surface) to recover your money is to exaggerate your claim. And this presents us with yet other parasites - those who deliberately cause collisions and then try to claim.

The root cause is the inherent unfair system we have to insurance, but I view every player with the same distaste.

I'm not being rude about anyone, I'm simply stating how I feel as a motorist, taxpayer and citizen. Shafted.

[yambabe]

I have a friend who works for a firm of specialist bike solicitors.

The most useful freebie we have had off them so far was a neck buff with the company name on it.

However, a word of caution to your mum.

There are a number of specialist bike solicitors around now who have a huge (and growing) library of case law to hand and who understand the circumstances that can surround a bike accident much better than someone who doesn't ride. There are also an increasing number of claims management firms who are specialising in bike cases.

Myself personally, should something happen which resulted in my having a valid claim against a 3rd party, I would way prefer to have someone working for me with a deep understanding of my choice of transport and its inherent hazards than someone who just wants to earn a fee out of me.

No amount of freebies given out would change that point of view. I want my solicitor to understand how my accident happened and advise me truthfully about where the fault lies and what the outcome might turn out to be, and I expect them to have dealt with many many similar cases in the past. A few branded goods do not a competent legal advisor make.
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[Chalky.]

They're scum.

[Vincent]

Sorry, but I also believe that most Insurance companies and compensation lawyers are little more than organised criminals and extortionists who, through lack of regulation, are bleeding the country dry. Not a job I could do and sleep well at night.
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[Aff]

How about some form of medical alert dogtag/keyring.

https://cdn.americanmedical-id.com/images_build/scroller_NESTDTRD_124_alt.jpg

https://www.tech-styling.com/wp-content/cash-stash.jpg
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[DrSnoosnoo]

[T0MMY]

I have to say there's not much they could give me that would actually persuade me to advertise a personal injury firm on my bike.

Maybe I'd accept a Scarlett Johansen lookalike wearing a t shirt with the company name on it that rides pillion giving me handjobs whilst I'm going along
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[UnknownStuntm...]

[DrSnoosnoo]

[UnknownStuntm...]

[DrSnoosnoo]

[Rogerborg]

Yes, yes, everyone hates these parasites, right up until the point where you're lying on the ground and hearing "Sorry, mate..." or more likely "Oi! You're paying for that, where did you come from, you must of being doing 200 miles per hour you bloody nutter..."

In addition to the previous suggestions, maybe springy coil cords - they're handy for attaching keys to idiots (this idiot is forever leaving his in the bike) or disk locks.

Thanks, by the way, this has prompted me to write down the number of a local firm of parasites. I went for the most crooked one I could find, you want the other side to be represented by nice, ethical chaps.
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[daemonoid]

I'd fit some free/subsidised crash bungs (and they're quite topical too).
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[T.C]

Without wishing to flame anyone's comments, mist of the problems caused by the perception of making a claim is down to the increasing number of claims management firms, who are

1. By and large unregulated

2. Have no issues about beefing a claim up to make it look worse than it actually was/is

3. Make their money selling on the referral to a firm who are prepared to pay (in some cases) quite large sums of money before they have even carried out a risk assessment.

4. Try to make their money on the hiring of another bike (or alternative transport) at disproportionate costs

And then having sold on the case to a less scrupulous law firm, the claimant often ends up with a firm who use in the main paralegals and legal executives and have no proper understanding of the law

They are very rarely able to speak to the same fee earner twice because they simply join the conveyor belt so that the claim can be rushed through as quickly as possible, often resulting in the claim being under valued

The person handling the case very rarely has an understanding of the dynamics of riding a motorcycle

And if they are using legal expenses appointed solicitors, then the law firm is often under pressure to keep costs down and get rid of the case as quickly as possible.

Much of the cynicism started with the likes of claims Direct and The Accident Group (TAG) back about 10 years ago, because of the way that they were signing people into illegal no win no fee agreements (which can no longer happen) and then charging claimants silly amounts for the ATE insurance, and charging the client considerably more.

I do a lot of presentations to various clubs and organisations, many of whose members are also very cynical until they have it explained to them how the system works, at which point the majority (not all) tend to change their opinions.

A lot of claims firms have no idea of traffic laws. I had someone this morning who had been recommended to accept 80% contributory liability because he was undertaking traffic in lane 1 of a dual carriageway approaching a roundabout when lane 2 was stationary and a vehicle pulled out from lane 2 into lane 1 and hit the ride causing serious injury.

The third party denied liability on the grounds that the the rider was performing an illegal undertake and the riders solicitor agreed.

I have now given him the ammunition to go back and be confident of rejecting the solicitors advice.

However, even the most cynical will be the first to call on a personal injury law firm in the event that they are knocked off the bike (or sustain any other injury for that matter) wanting to know how much their claim is worth, how long it will take to settle and what it is going to cost them.

There are some sharks out there, that there is no denying, but it is also very easy to tar everyone with the same brush.

We are always looking at new ways that we can promote the firm without being tared as an ambulance chaser, which is not easy and is also one of the reasons I do so many presentations, but additionally a lot of firms have stopped taking on the minor cases (whiplash and the like) because of fixed fees, the portal system and probably just as importantly the potential for accepting cash for crash scam cases which are on the increase.

One of the reasons why we only take on cases worth at least £15,000 (which will increase to £25,000 next year), because that way we at least can be assured that the injuries are genuine.

The insurers also have to take their share of responsibility as many are themselves now selling on claims for a big fat referral fee, and even when a potential scam claim is flagged, they very rarely take any action and pay out regardless as it is less hassle.

But back to the OP's original point, it is very difficult.
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[DrDonnyBrago]

T.C. - are you saying you don't trust anyone that has to advertise on a keyring?

[T.C]

[DrSnoosnoo]