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Kwakki Si
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PostPosted: 10:01 - 21 Aug 2012    Post subject: epic puncture. Reply with quote
Looks like a screwdriver from my toolkit from the bike, i dont understand how it got out of the tool bag and out of the passanger storage seat???
Looks like a new rear tyre and a hugger Sad
How did this happen, it doesnt make any sense lol
Got about 200yards from my house and then i just heard this banging noise so i new straight away there was something in my trye, but when i saw a screwdriver i couldny believe it, im more gutted that i was going on a ride out with my dad today to visit my grandma.

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PostPosted: 10:05 - 21 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: 10:06 - 21 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bloody hell! Not a gap in the rear panel some where that the screwdriver could have fell through?
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Kwakki Si
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PostPosted: 10:12 - 21 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
RichieZX6R wrote:
Bloody hell! Not a gap in the rear panel some where that the screwdriver could have fell through?


Had a look, theres a few small holes that are ment to be there i think but how the hell a screwdriver worked its wayt through one of them i dont know, might of taken another route but cant really see how, it must of been lying loose in there as theres no way it woulda come out the tool bag aswel, fucking bad luck by the looks of it, you live and learn i guess, i wont be keeping anything like that in there again....
Do you think the rear hugger will be ok to use for a bit? as you can see its just lost a bit where the screwdriver hit it.
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PostPosted: 10:18 - 21 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
i wouldn't use the hugger as some shards could come off and damage a new tyre or other parts of the bike. Best not take chances when the wheels are what keep you on the road Laughing

Has the screwdriver snapped from the handle as the bit sticking out looks like the end you put into the screw?
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 21 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Is it definitely your screwdriver?


Either way, good going, that's pretty impressive Thumbs Up .

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Has the screwdriver snapped from the handle as the bit sticking out looks like the end you put into the screw?


Toolkit screwdrivers are usually reversible - i.e. the other side will be a cross head screwdriver and you fit it into a handle.
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RichieZX6R
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 21 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
DonnyBrago wrote:

Toolkit screwdrivers are usually reversible - i.e. the other side will be a cross head screwdriver and you fit it into a handle.


Oh yeah, i've seen them but not had a bike tool kit for a while. Forgot about that!

Very impressive all the same!
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PostPosted: 10:28 - 21 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yeah must say im pretty impressed with it lol, my bank acount isnt very impressed though Sad
Yeah its a reversable screwdriver, fuck sake the tyre is near enough brand new.
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PostPosted: 10:32 - 21 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Could that actually be plugged? never attempted to get a bike tyre plugged before? Had a car tyre done a few year back though.
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PostPosted: 10:34 - 21 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
RichieZX6R wrote:
Could that actually be plugged? never attempted to get a bike tyre plugged before? Had a car tyre done a few year back though.


Laughing Laughing You'd need a plug the size of a champagne cork!!!



(No, too much damage Thumbs Down )
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PostPosted: 10:36 - 21 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
DonnyBrago wrote:


Laughing Laughing You'd need a plug the size of a champagne cork!!!



(No, too much damage Thumbs Down )


Hahaha true, just trying to save the OP some money after just spending over £220 on getting new tyres myself.
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PostPosted: 10:38 - 21 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Unlucky dude, If that rear huger is fiber glass, get it patched up, would be much cheaper Wink
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PostPosted: 10:48 - 21 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
I reckon it'll plug. Can't hurt to ask.

You ream out the hole to about that size to fit a plug anyway and it's on the main part of the tread.
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PostPosted: 10:48 - 21 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bishbash II wrote:
Unlucky dude, If that rear huger is fiber glass, get it patched up, would be much cheaper Wink


yes it is fibre glass, where would i take it to get repaired?
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 21 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
stinkwheel wrote:
I reckon it'll plug. Can't hurt to ask.

You ream out the hole to about that size to fit a plug anyway and it's on the main part of the tread.


I will ask the guys at the shop but it looks proper fucked, i done a good job at that!
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PostPosted: 11:18 - 21 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
stinkwheel wrote:
I reckon it'll plug. Can't hurt to ask.

You ream out the hole to about that size to fit a plug anyway and it's on the main part of the tread.


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Only supposed to plug the middle 50% of the tyre, and there is substantial ripping of the tyre tread around the hole.


No chance I'd ride on it.
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 21 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Holy Moly !

That puncture is second only to the one my mate picked up on his SRAD a few years back. He stopped to find a pair of scissors sticking out of his rear tyre that he has collected from the road !
That cost him some of his hugger too. Sad

I reckon you could get that tyre plugged and use it, if only till your flush enough to buy new rubber later on. Smile
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PostPosted: 15:07 - 21 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kwakki Si wrote:
Bishbash II wrote:
Unlucky dude, If that rear huger is fiber glass, get it patched up, would be much cheaper Wink


yes it is fibre glass, where would i take it to get repaired?


If you are good with hands on stuff, do it yourself, it's not to tricky to do..... or do a google search for fiber glass repairs in your area and ask them if they would do it. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 21 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
You can generally fix a hole up to 1/4" in diameter with a mushroom plug.
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 21 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
stinkwheel wrote:
You can generally fix a hole up to 1/4" in diameter with a mushroom plug.


The screwdriver might only be a few mm or so, but look at the damage around it, there is a deep gash about an inch long - looks like a rip from the screwdriver going in at an angle and being forced straight or vice versa. I can't see a screwdriver making a nice clean hole through the cords either.

Rather you than me.
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 21 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
DonnyBrago wrote:

The screwdriver might only be a few mm or so, but look at the damage around it, there is a deep gash about an inch long - looks like a rip from the screwdriver going in at an angle and being forced straight or vice versa. I can't see a screwdriver making a nice clean hole through the cords either.

Rather you than me.


But damage to the tread itself is pretty irrelevant. Especially if it's shallower than the grooves that have already been cut into it (which that appears to be). It's just the rubber and will eventually be worn off anyway.

They'll be able to see any damage to the carcasse when they take the tyre off to fit a mushroom bung.

You ever seen them fit a bung by the way? First thing you do is take a course file and ream the hole out bigger to suit the bung. A file doesn't exactly make a clean cut in the carcasse either.

Another option would be to fit a heavy duty tube in it. (yes you can, it'll get hot quicker, that is all).
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 21 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Reminds me a bit of this

https://img.tapatalk.com/5f95d16f-5c87-2a40.jpg

posted a while ago on babybmw
https://www.babybmw.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=37413
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PostPosted: 16:04 - 21 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
stinkwheel wrote:
You ever seen them fit a bung by the way? First thing you do is take a course file and ream the hole out bigger to suit the bung. A file doesn't exactly make a clean cut in the carcasse either.


I have seen a tyre repair. I didn't mean clean as in not rough, I meant clean as in not round. i.e. the basal layer unlikely has a clean hole through it, more likely a rip from the screwdriver going in at an angle and being forced round.

I wouldn't put money on it being repairable or passing a subsequent MOT. I'd also never trust it - too fast a bike, too far over into the part of the tyre that I'm not willing to compromise on.
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Kwakki Si
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 21 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
nategs500 wrote:
Reminds me a bit of this

https://img.tapatalk.com/5f95d16f-5c87-2a40.jpg

posted a while ago on babybmw
https://www.babybmw.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=37413


holy shit, i thought mine was extreme lol.
had to get new rubber, the guy at the shop said its to close to the edge or something, needs to be more in the middle. Oh well it was fun learning to take a back wheel off, im just shitting myself that i aint done it up tight enough :/
ive emptyed my storage bit, no fucking way do i want something in there again.
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