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PostPosted: 23:20 - 22 Aug 2012    Post subject: Please help recognise this rider Reply with quote

https://www.dogheirs.com/events/519
An Orange KTM 2stroke from what I can make out. Anyone know this animal Evil or Very Mad ?
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Dog-killing motorcyclist sought

When: 2012-08-16 13:30:00 -0700
Where: Aldershot, Hampshire UK

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A motorcyclist in Hampshire, UK, deliberately rode into a dog on leash while the dog was walking with her owner in a popular walking area. As result, a 10-year-old German Shepherd named Zena was killed. The RSPCA is calling the incident an "unbelievable act of cruelty" and is now seeking the public's help in locating the motorcyclist.

authorities seek motor biker who killed a dog on purpose Zena and her owner were walking on the heathland in Aldershot, Hampshire in an area known locally as Caesar's Camp, when a man appeared in the distance on a motor cross bike.

The owner, who does not wish to be named, said the rider sped towards them and purposefully crashed into Zena. The resulting impact threw her 25 feet. She had multiple injuries and her heart stopped a few minutes later.

Zena's owner, who lives in Farnham, Surrey, said: "It was a nice day and we were in full view with lots of space around us but the man on the bike seemed to stop, look right at me and then he speeded up to around 60 miles per hour and headed flat out towards us - I honestly thought I was going to die but instead he hit my beautiful dog."

Zena's owner said that the man carried on riding his bike around the area as his dog lay dying. "When I shouted that my dog was dead and then got my camera out to take a picture of the man, he eventually rode off."

Zena was deliberately killed by a motor cross cyclist in AldershotZena's owner said it was no doubt it was a deliberate act, given that the motorcyclist saw them and even tried to intimidate him by driving full speed directly at him.

The man has had Zena since she was 11-months old and is devasted by the incident. He said, "I cannot even imagine what would cause anyone to behave in such a way and I am stunned, I have lost my companion and my friend, she was such a lovely dog."

Zena's owner immediately went to Hampshire and Surrey police and the RSPCA.

The photo he took is now being circulated in the hopes someone will come forward to identify the perpetrator.

The RSPCA said the bike is a KTM EXC/Super Moto, which is a road legal bike fitted with lights and indicators. It is believed the man on the bike is a younger person by his frame and the way he was dressed. The incident occurred around 1:30pm on August 16, 2012.

Anyone with information on the man on the motorbike, or has information about this incident, is urged to contact the Ministry of Defence Police, Hampshire Police or the RSPCA at 0300 123 8018 and leave a message for inspector England, who is investigating. Calls will be held in confidence.

Under the Animal Welfare Act in Britain, anyone found guilty of causing deliberate suffering to an animal can face up to six months in prison and/or a £20,000 fine.

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PostPosted: 23:44 - 22 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most probably be a council estate yobbo on a nicked bike. Won't find him, and yet more anti-biker sentiment.
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PostPosted: 23:48 - 22 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, not a motorcyclist at all.

Someone, somewhere knows this twat, or it's their bike which has been stolen etc.

Can I ask people to share this on any social media sites? Please.
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PostPosted: 00:04 - 23 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

tbh Aldershot people are fucked up, went in to tesco earlier with some receipts so they could put the points on my new clubcard. Apparently they can only put 2 on a day because people pick them out of bins Confused
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PostPosted: 05:51 - 23 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand, who says this was deliberate? The owner? The amount of out of control dogs I've seen when greenlaning is ridiculous.

60 mph? Unlikely. Hitting a full grown German Shepherd at 60 mph would end badly for the rider and bike as well.

Something doesn't add up here.
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PostPosted: 06:01 - 23 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe wrote:
On the other hand, who says this was deliberate? The owner? The amount of out of control dogs I've seen when greenlaning is ridiculous.

60 mph? Unlikely. Hitting a full grown German Shepherd at 60 mph would end badly for the rider and bike as well.

Something doesn't add up here.


Yes, only one side of the story here... and I wouldn't fancy hitting a dog at any speed.
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PostPosted: 06:45 - 23 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe wrote:
On the other hand, who says this was deliberate? The owner? The amount of out of control dogs I've seen when greenlaning is ridiculous.

60 mph? Unlikely. Hitting a full grown German Shepherd at 60 mph would end badly for the rider and bike as well.

Something doesn't add up here.


I was thinking the same thing as I read the story. That's a hell of a lot of kinetic energy to transfer into the front of any bike. What does a full-grown GSD weigh - 40/50 kilos? So this guy hit a 40 kilo dog hard enough to throw it 8 metres and managed to ride away?

A tragic tale, and a callous rider, but having hit a much smaller dog at 60mph in a car and seen the damage that caused I don't really believe the 'facts'.
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PostPosted: 06:55 - 23 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Urgh. What does the owner have to gain from inventing the substance of the allegation? It'd be the other way around if it was a legit green-laner.

To non bikers, sound = speed. 60mph = WOT in 1st. Yes, it's a retarded thing to do, but bike thieves are just upright rats, and the scrote was probably jizzing himself from the high of nicking it.
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 23 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might not have been a thief. If a normal rider were going through there and hit a dog, there are circumstances under which they might not wish to stop. An angry and potentially violent owner would be one example. The funny thing is, if they did stop, and the owner attacked the rider and the rider defended themself, the police would probably accuse them of road rage and ask why they didn't just leave the scene!
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 23 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simple wrote:
I agree, not a motorcyclist at all...

Agree, there are diffrences between a motorcyclist, a biker and someone who just happens to be riding a bike.

Trouble is it's not that clear to everyone.

FWIW copied out the link to the picture...
https://s3.amazonaws.com/heirnet/photos/41344/dog-killing-biker.jpg
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 23 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having owned a KTM 520 I'd say 60 is well over the mark
maybe 40 max

Unfortunately I've hit a dog before while on a Moto x
my neighbour had a collie that chased bikes & cars, it followed his grandson up to a local field we were playing in
I had my son on the back of the bike when the dog appeared running right at me
I couldn't swerve to avoid it without crashing which was not an option with my son on board
luckily I caught it with my boot or it would have got ripped by the footpeg

but it did fly a fair distance, but it got up and ran away, immediately informed the neighbour
who shrugged it off saying "Stupid effing dog, surprised it not been run over yet"

but if this is true and he did this as described I'd like to run over him
looks like a muppet anyway, apart from a helmet I can't see any armour Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 22:14 - 23 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

if it helps am informed this is a "KTM EXC 250 (two-stroke) "

by an off road buddy, may be wrong but does seem to know his stuff

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PostPosted: 22:26 - 23 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably covdude. Did he have a knife?

Also, I bet it was more accidental than intentional.
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PostPosted: 10:37 - 26 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, bike was stolen. Not sure why that wasn't mentioned up front, could have been an out of contact owner, or (I suspect) the scrote TWOCd his mate's / dad's / big bruvva's bike and now they've had to report it as a theft.
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PostPosted: 18:06 - 14 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Yup, bike was stolen. Not sure why that wasn't mentioned up front, could have been an out of contact owner, or (I suspect) the scrote TWOCd his mate's / dad's / big bruvva's bike and now they've had to report it as a theft.


Strange scrotes dont usually leave number plates on??? (found it mister honest i did) or are they bothered about helmets....ummmm.
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 14 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's what informed my opinion that it was a familiar TWOC with the intention to return it later.
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