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JustGraham
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PostPosted: 00:44 - 27 Aug 2012    Post subject: Dude where's your bike..?? Reply with quote

https://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj608/grah1234/DSC_07321.jpg


I saw this up london this week and had to take a pic Thumbs Up

Remember people to chain your bike through the frame Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 01:07 - 27 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, chains/disklocks are the best way to go.

Interestingly mopeds aren't the most common 'bike' taken though.
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PostPosted: 01:51 - 27 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have seen a moped brake disc with a disc lock attached abandoned on the floor in a motorcycle parking bay near me Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 11:11 - 27 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can anyone actually get a chain through any part of their bike other than a wheel? Except maybe a bit of swingarm.

If you can, can you ever park your bike in a position where the bit of street furniture you want to lock it to is anywhere near the bit of frame you want to thread the chain through? Guy in photo could have used a longer chain and looped it around the whole footboard/frame I suppose, but I can see why he would have used just the front wheel.

It's all well and good saying you should but there are very few big bikes where you can and even fewer faired bikes where you can and having the perfect parking spot where that accessible bit of frame is adjacent to a bit of secure street furniture must be all but impossible.


The only way I'd get a lock through part of my frame and tothe railings I chain it to would be to use a 3 m long thin cable lock, which would be shit.
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PostPosted: 11:20 - 27 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

DonnyBrago wrote:
Can anyone actually get a chain through any part of their bike other than a wheel? Except maybe a bit of swingarm.


Yet another reason everyone should own a ducati with a trellis frame Wink
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 27 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

daemonoid wrote:
The only reason anyone should ever own a ducati with a trellis frame Wink


FTFY Thumbs Up .
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 27 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

scooters alsays seem to have a towing type eye halfway down the one siide

i use this to lock them up with
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PostPosted: 11:50 - 27 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Insurance for rider's in London ( in certain part's ) must be a bomb as it's so high risk Surprised
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 27 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Upon closer inspection, there are double yellows on the road - the bike was probably nicked by the council Laughing .
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 27 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, that looks like part of the "highway" to me. I'm surprised the survivor isn't dripping with tickets.

More likely though there's now a couple of scrotes looking to blag a front wheel from some genius who's locked up his frame. Very Happy

It's not the length, it's what you do it with. Noose chains:

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PostPosted: 13:28 - 27 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely the ped in the picture would have been better to nick seeing as it isnt actually chained up?

*shrugs*

Thats one less of the poxy things on the road anyway Wink
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 27 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like it was a piaggio fly:
https://en.piaggio-club.net/graphics/gallery/full/139_09piaggiofly150.jpg
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 27 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

DonnyBrago wrote:
Can anyone actually get a chain through any part of their bike other than a wheel? ...

Given that was a scooter and iirc most scooter now have a secure loop either at the side or back to pass a chain through.

Regarding bikes you may have a point. Generally if use chain while out and about it is through rear wheel and over the seat so not on the ground.
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 27 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

DonnyBrago wrote:

Why is there people who steal these cheap scooters?
Are they doing this for earning money?
We rarely see cheap scooters with chain cause no one steals them.
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 27 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

kawashima wrote:
Are they doing this for earning money?


Must be for the money. Joyriding without a front wheel only lasts so long Wink .

Scooters get stolen all of the time in the UK, have a read of the link below. The piaggio zip was the 3rd most commonly stolen motorcycle in the country. The top ten are almost exclusively scooters, with a couple of small capacity learner legals in there too. Part of that is probably down to crap security and sheer numbers on the road mind.


https://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news--general-news/gilera-runner-most-stolen-motorcycle-in-the-uk/18843.html
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 27 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

DonnyBrago wrote:
kawashima wrote:
Are they doing this for earning money?


Must be for the money. Joyriding without a front wheel only lasts so long Wink .

Scooters get stolen all of the time in the UK, have a read of the link below. The piaggio zip was the 3rd most commonly stolen motorcycle in the country. The top ten are almost exclusively scooters, with a couple of small capacity learner legals in there too. Part of that is probably down to crap security and sheer numbers on the road mind.


https://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news--general-news/gilera-runner-most-stolen-motorcycle-in-the-uk/18843.html

Thanks for the link DonnyBrago. 8 out of top 10 were scooter and moped. Because of poor security. It must be a frustration need to lock a scooter with chain when you park it. I feel sorry for the owner in OP. Thanks for the info.
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 27 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

There must be some people that steal them for financial gain but I think most are stolen by kids/chavs for joyriding.

It is strange how the problem doesn't exist in other countries. I hired a scooter when I was in Thailand and asked the guy at the hire shop if he would lend my a lock to use when I parked it up, he just looked at my in a confused kind of way and said "no it will be fine it has lock on steering".
The problem also doesn't seem to exist in other parts of Europe as you often see scooters parked up outside cafes and shops with the keys in the ignition.
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PostPosted: 17:02 - 27 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al wrote:
The problem also doesn't seem to exist in other parts of Europe as you often see scooters parked up outside cafes and shops with the keys in the ignition.

Really? Thinking Worth hiring a big van and heading across the channel for the day then? Laughing

Anyone want to buy a scooter?

But seriously, that's crazy, and just asking for trouble, surely?! If you left the keys in the ignition here, you could probably close your eyes, count to 10 and it'd be gone.
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 27 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting looking at those theft stats. I wonder if the predominance of scooters is because they can be ridden by any old delinquent, whereas a geared bike actually requires 5 mins of learning and a brain cell or two. It'd also be interesting to know what proportion of bike thefts are ride-away, and what proportion are slung in the back of a van.
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 27 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

TSMW wrote:
True, chains/disklocks are the best way to go.

Interestingly mopeds aren't the most common 'bike' taken though.


really? so how is a disc lock going to stop someone from removing the wheel Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 27 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

DonnyBrago wrote:


I doubt it, more of a chance of it being a Gilera runner.

That wheel is shared by alot of different models so could be a few.

Gilera runners are the ultimate steal, getting rarer now and most are nicked.

I had a runner when I was younger and got mugged and beaten up for it inside university grounds whilst they made off for it without keys pushing it with another scooter in the middle of the road.

I had an alarm, big lock and disk lock on against a pole. It was after I disarmed the alarm and took locks off that they pounced Sad

They will do anything to nick these Sad
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 27 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noxious89123 wrote:

But seriously, that's crazy, and just asking for trouble, surely?! If you left the keys in the ignition here, you could probably close your eyes, count to 10 and it'd be gone.


It seems silly to me but then if theft has never been a problem I suppose it's just not something you are worried about.
It is the same as people not locking their front doors when they are at home, it is pretty easy to turn a key but plenty of people don't, I guess if you live in a remote location with no crime you probably don't even think about it.
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PostPosted: 02:29 - 28 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

kernow24 wrote:
TSMW wrote:
True, chains/disklocks are the best way to go.

Interestingly mopeds aren't the most common 'bike' taken though.


really? so how is a disc lock going to stop someone from removing the wheel Rolling Eyes
Going from what's reported through the page;

Theft prevention is about deterrence.
If somebody wants it they will have it.

I didn't imply a disk lock would stop the wheel being removed, it also won't stop the bike being lifted into a van which is a common way for bikes to be taken. (also in the last few weeks, 2 random guys were mugged/hijacked for big sports bikes).

How many threads are there on here going back years about 'my disclock just had me off'? DiscLocks stop thiefs walking away with bikes which was my point initially, add a chain round a lamp-post through a wheel and they're less likely to get it that time, assuming they don't give up completely.
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PostPosted: 03:47 - 28 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noxious89123 wrote:
If you left the keys in the ignition here, you could probably close your eyes, count to 10 and it'd be gone.


Used to occasionally leave the keys in my ZRX1100 overnight parked outside on my drive when I lived in North Wales. Think I even left the keys in it when I went into a Tesco once too. No problems. (Obviously they weren't left in on purpose!)

I've since moved to Manchester and I don't leave anything unlocked even if I'm just going into a shop for 30 seconds. When I go back to visit friends and family in North Wales they're usually rather amused by my level of paranoia locking everything up.
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