Squatter's rights.

[Ed Case]

Anybody got any strong feelings about these Squatter's Rights possibly being kicked into touch ?. Personally I'm in two minds, why the Hell shouldn't an unoccupied be used by those without shelter on the other hand why should someone else's property be up for grabs just because no-one's living there at the time ?. Taking these 'Rights' further, if your out on the bike and your not using your car (if you've got one) could some r'sole just take it for his or her own use just because you're not using it at the time and have the protection (?) of the Law.

[t121anf]

quite happy if i'm honest, fuck em.

[Hockeystorm65]

Result! If it aint yours, ask first!
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[Polarbear]

if I've paid x hundred thousand of my hard earned money on a building, what I do with it is my buisness. I don't want some asshole moving in cause he has fucking rights
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[Benno]

My nextdoor neighbours at uni last year had squatters.

Turned out there was an old lady living there. Or, more accurately, had lived there...she was the homeowner and her son, who I spoke to later (a middle class guy with a family) inherited the house in the will.

Anyway, for about two weeks we kept hearing loud foreign music. One day the police came round and told us they thought there were squatters next door and if we knew anything, and we told them about the music.

Two days later and a car is parked outside our drive blocking it. I go up to speak to the driver and find out he is the old lady's son. We meet and greet as neighbours and he tells me he is staking out the house waiting for the squatters to come out. I wish him luck and go to my lecture.

When I came back there was a police car there and two police men were apprehending this tiny asian lady coming out of the house. The guy took the keys off her and went in. Two minutes later he came out crying. We later found out the body of his dead mother had been on the sofa in the living room the whole time, and a whole family of koreans had been living there.


Pretty disgusting if you ask me. They moved in literally the day after she died. None of them spoke any English. Seemed pretty dodgy to me and vindicated my stance against squatters "rights".
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[scorps]

You do know that most squatters are bored middle class idiots going through the "let's pretend we are ordinary oiks" don't you? That's why most of the properties they destroy are large posh empty ones. On the other side of the coin, there is a disturbing trend for foreigners breaking into the furnished homes of people who are at work and a system that won't back the home owners. Bring on jail sentences for these arseholes.
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[arry]

[Im-a-Ridah]

They should be evicted and prosecuted for burglary and theft to the value of the house and contents.

[colin1]

[Skudd]

[Benno]

[unitynotsocri...]

I'd like to bless you all with homelessness,so then you would really notice how many empty properties there are,and how many second homes are around......and also how many decent non drinking,non druggie homeless people there are in this country..and all because people are delusional ,thinking they 'own' their own homes.

Note.....in the near future all debt ridden 'home owners' will be screwed by excessive interest rates in order to pay off quantitive easing .Accept your houses are vastly overvalued and the currency is near worthless.

In april this year the OK CAFE group squatted an empty pub in Manchester.The pub was closed years ago due to drug dealing/guns/violence etc....The OK Cafe ented the property,did loads of saftey building stuff,like,making the electrics,plumbing SAFE as well as doing maintenance to the property for which the property owner would have saved a few grand.after 3 weeks of providing accomidation for homeless people,as well as feeding 150 plus people a day with free vegan food that was sourced from feindly shops and skips.We had some fantastic gigs,workshops etc as well as providing a forum where people of mny social classes could meet and discuss eduction,social provision and the mess that is goverment.there were no fights,hardly any alchohol or drugs.what there was lots of was decent people ,old and young trying to come up with solutions to our everyday pressing problems.About 2,000 people of all walks found the OK CAFE an exiting place,music ,sophistication,culture,but most importantly it provided a meeting place where people could discuss anything...openly ...freely...without any intimidation.

The recent change in the law on squatting is an inevitable small milestone on the inevitable political/social confrontation which is rapidly sweeping this country.Accept the true economic maxim....the 'VALUE' of somthing is what you can sell it for,now,today.waiting for better economic times and burying your heads in a 'home owing democracy' may be a good tactic,if your prepared to wait 12 to 20 years..........The english version of the 'sons of Glyndor' should be hitting the streets this winter.
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[bazza]

[arry]

[CaNsA]

Empty council houses..... Fair game if you ask me.

The homeless people are solving a problem quicker than the "powers that be".
They obviously need help from the government/benefits agency etc and they're not getting it so what choice do they have but to help themselves

I dont know how many homeless people there are or how many empty council houses there are but i would hazard a guess that there would be enough room for everyone.

Empty privately owned houses..... Bang out of order.
I'm not into spending hard earned cash on something only for someone to take it away from me.

[arry]

[Mushroom]

[CaNsA]

[Carl_steveo]

It's a good and a bad thing really. Bad for the genuine squatters who have no option but to sleep rough and the idea of squatting is like a mini holiday.

Good for the dickhead squatters, the type of squatters who do it because the £10000 a month daddy gives them would make life too easy, however would they be able to write "poetry" if their life was easy.
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[unitynotsocri...]

most squatters I've met are clean cut lefty types,usually vegan and very socialistic,rather than the stinky homeless that bazza seems to know.People need a home and the majority of property owners,as in HOME owners are compelled to buy a house weether they can afford to or not as the rotting financial/social/political system has them over the barrel.
I've met 'squatters' who've boasted about squatting embasseys and wrecking the place...luckily these sort are very few...after all they are cultureless vandals and criminals .......indeed this lot so disgusted me n my mates that we stole their 7.5 x 16 landrover wheels so they would appreciate what its like to own property....and have it trashed.

Its easy to pull out a few stereotypes (a fault of mine too),at the end of the day there's more and more homeless people,especially the last year.They are mainly non alchohol/drink type,mostly under 25 and very vunerable to evil influences.same old shit really just like the early 80's except on a bigger scale but compounded with all the FALSE homless charities.

FOOTNOTE....the other yer manchester council decided to count the number of 'rough sleepers' in order to mesure social statistics.It decided to keep close to the city centre.What they did was find homeless people sleeping rough,wake them up ,then ask a few questions about homelesness..........but...BIG BUT did'nt count any homeless sleeper who woke up!!!!After all according to the council...they were'nt sleeping THEY WERE AWAKE!!!!! They counted 7 homeless rough sleepers,at present in manchester the number is about 250 to 300 in the city centre alone,mostly east european.
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[bazza]

[unitynotsocri...]

well there's a few like that and a lot who still have the rancid odour of mumies and daddies who are social workers and teachers but they did'nt ask to be born.What I was well impressed with by these mainly young(under 25) people was there motivation,lack of substansce abuse and political/social awareness,e'g ..instead of whining on about the whales and liberatin labias for lezzers,patronising black people they were talking a bout making real safe communities that were self policing and self socially supporting ,with provision and collective social responsiility for the ill and elderly,and a big emphasis on self awareness and personal growth through living With each other in a community.......ha these stupid young people wtf do they know about life eh?[img][/img]


Fkkkkkkg young people ....yeahhhh anarchy an all that shit man...
most of these 'squatters' were employed,shitty part timers,post grads or students.
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[Hockeystorm65]

[Rogerborg]

[Joncrete Cungle]

As with all bells and whistles heralded changes of the law, the proof of the pudding is often in the eating. The law might be dressed up as something the vast majority of 'voters' find themselves agreeing with, such as the notion that private property should be respected and not damaged. But then to what other ends could such a law be twisted and interpreted to fit?

Landlord not upholding his obligations to tenants, bit of a dispute over something that is broken or faulty? Could the new law be used to 'evict' tennants as 'squatters' should the landlord wish to play dirty and circumvent the current process of serving notice to quit? Fall upon hard times and get behind with the mortgage, can the mortgagee use the new law to circumvent the current reposession process and evict the person renting the property from the bank much faster?

After all when Tony Blair stood up and told the nation it needed some overbearing anti terrorism laws for our own good. Who would have thought those same powers would now be used against people taking photographs in public places and people demonstrating peacefully and lawfully against arms firms?