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PostPosted: 19:51 - 04 Sep 2012    Post subject: A nice little police abuse video Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 20:06 - 04 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not connecting for me.
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PostPosted: 20:14 - 04 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just checked the link and it's fine for me.

Here's an alternate:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EIzDFeVNm8&feature=player_embedded


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PostPosted: 20:14 - 04 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although we are only seeing a certain portion of the whole event, it doesn't look good.
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 04 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

$10,000,000 civil law suit should get him the some compensation.

American cops. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 22:52 - 04 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Judges don't like lies in sworn statements and often throw the book at people for doing so. e.g 1 year for GBH, 2 years for conspiring to lie to the court.
IMO police officers making things up / clearly lieing is the lowest of the low and they should be made an example of with extra harsh sentences. We all make mistakes and they are forgiveable provided they are honest, but outright lies to fuck someone over coming from someone paid and trusted to protect people should result in: Dismissal, Zero Pension / health care, big fat sentence.
Sure it'd put a few bad eggs in prison but it'd go a long way to restore the conduct of police officers and the trust people have in them.
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PostPosted: 06:55 - 05 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

cromwell wrote:
Although we are only seeing a certain portion of the whole event, it doesn't look good.


I think there's a LOT more to that one. "We went to the garage to umm ummm errrrr get some snacks! Yeah, that's right, just to get snacks! And my mate always wears a ski mask, even when it's really hot. And I wasn't drunk or high, I always walk along like that."

Still shouldn't EVER be pistol whipped, but I really don't think he's little Miss Innocent...
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PostPosted: 09:43 - 05 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh look, another 'perp' commiting "breach of the peace, resisting arrest and assaulting a police officer". Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 09:55 - 05 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is normal to go into a gas station wearing a ski mask with your mate and the mate just to wonder off when the guy wearing the ski ask is stopped by the police.
You see it all the time around here. Little old lady next door carries a shot gun to get her loaf in the morning. No one bats an eye lid.
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PostPosted: 10:08 - 05 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
It is normal to go into a gas station wearing a ski mask with your mate and the mate just to wonder off when the guy wearing the ski ask is stopped by the police.
You see it all the time around here. Little old lady next door carries a shot gun to get her loaf in the morning. No one bats an eye lid.


Oh geez, you're at it again! What is it with the love of authority?

Copper charges down some guy who was with a guy with a ski mask on. Cracks him round the head with a pistol. Pistol goes off and officer doesn't want to fill in the paperwork about his 'accidental discharge' so frames a guy for assaulting a police officer. Remember, no other charges other than assaulting a police officer with the back of his head!

Is it the whole walking away thing again? It is, isn't it! These two walk away from the police in an 'aggravating' manner so it's ok for the police to 1. administer beating 2. bring false charges 3. lie to the court.

You really do have a warped sense of reality!
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PostPosted: 10:08 - 05 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

No excusing the officer if indeed he has lied on his testimony.

But walking into a gas station with a friend wearing a face mask and then hurridly leaving as the Police arrive. The asshat deserved a smack in the head for that.

The bullet skimming his cheek during the pistol whipping may have been a tad OTT though. Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:44 - 05 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Judges don't like lies in sworn statements


Or the word cock " im just going to scare him " Laughing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTbQLMXwlXM&feature=related
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PostPosted: 15:16 - 05 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

daemonoid wrote:
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It is normal to go into a gas station wearing a ski mask with your mate and the mate just to wonder off when the guy wearing the ski ask is stopped by the police.
You see it all the time around here. Little old lady next door carries a shot gun to get her loaf in the morning. No one bats an eye lid.


Oh geez, you're at it again! What is it with the love of authority?
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Oh so because I don't jump and follow the sheep I must love authority?

Get real, it has mor to the way you are following others than making up your own mind.

From the small clip and the storey we are given then the officer should be hung until he is dead, BUT, and this is the brilliant thing about indipendant thought, I can see that there must be more to the facts and how they have been given.
The fact that there could be some more facts and that a fact can be interpreted in various ways means that there is more to the storey.

Stop being a sheep, make your own mind up and don't be such a bigot.

Don't forget that many people see you as the scum just because you ride a bike. You may want to live upto that reputation to give the Hard Biker image, when really you are nothing like that.

I'm neither pro authority or pro people. I am against sheep and jumping on the band wagon. I am for making your own mind up and not taking what is presented infront of me as the gospel just because it fits with a bigots view.
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PostPosted: 15:37 - 05 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
I'm neither pro authority or pro people. I am against sheep and jumping on the band wagon. I am for making your own mind up and not taking what is presented infront of me as the gospel just because it fits with a bigots view.


From what I've seen of your views on here you are very much the sheep - follow exactly what society tells you, the police are always justified etc. just because a few people think differently on here doesn't make them sheep - they're the minority FFS!

If the last paragraph of yours is really your view rather than the authority loving you tend to do then you are not making up your own mind, you're being contrary. Clearly no one has the full facts in this case, but from what we do know there is really only one way to look at it. But you instead approach it from the contrarian view of 'how can I possibly disagree with everyone'.

Just to recap, kid not charged with anything other than assaulting a police officer. Assault never took place (in fact was a victim of assault and cop lied). Skudd's verdict - probably had it coming to him...
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PostPosted: 15:46 - 05 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Ryan Dorm is successful in suing the Maryland Police Dept for $10 million then one good thing may come out of all of this. Him and his ski-mask wearing friend won't have to hold-up any more gas stations for a while .
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 05 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

So to not follow the sheep you have to say that all p[olice are bad and that someone who has gain $10,000,000 will tell 100% the truth because no charges wre brought????????

How many time do you see things happen and no charges are brought, day time TV is full of them.

Not following the seep is having your own opinion, or being prepared to see the other view. Some on here have the dogma that all authority is bad because they have authority and tell you what to do when you are doing things that you shouldn't be.

If someone is in the wrong then that should be delt with, but to sy that the other is perfectly free from any blame............ wel the loke is on you.
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PostPosted: 16:48 - 05 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I have some of whatever it is you take on a daily basis skudd?
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PostPosted: 17:09 - 05 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think here is any context in which that could have been legal.


I can't imagine pistol whipping is in any police handbook and only a complete fucking idiot would do it with the safety off and a round in the chamber. That idiot cop is lucky he didn't kill someone or take his hand off.

The kid is walking away and when he turns doesn't have a weapon and isn't aggressive.
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 05 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think all skudd is saying is: that kid is probably a right cunt.
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 05 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
If someone is in the wrong then that should be delt with, but to sy that the other is perfectly free from any blame............ wel the loke is on you.


Judging by his interview I can see how he's probably a chav. Again though you're blaming him for a cop assaulting and framing him.

You ride a bike, I'm sure you've harassed the odd kitten in your time. If a cop assaulted you and framed you I'd assume he'd be in the right because you'd done wrong?

Once again, real simple:
1. Chav out being chavy.
2. Middle class may not approve but chav has broken no laws.
3. Cop pistol whips chav.
4. Cop makes up assault charges because of his own stupidity.
5. Chav spends 4 months in prison despite having committed a crime.

Skudd, the point is we have laws and procedure. Whether you like the look of someone or not they have to break a law and go through the criminal justice system. Cops cannot be allowed to do this kind of thing.

Also note, I've assumed the guy is a chav just to appease you - you're basing that view on what exactly? People often freeze on TV interviews and come across as a mong (I've done it myself), what I really think is that you know the cops never do anything wrong and there's no smoke without fire and all that?
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 05 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Policing is not an exact science.

Policemen have to routinely detain innocent people who they suspect to be guilty of a crime.

To minimise the chance of harm to themselves, some officers routinely use excessive force.

American officers should be told to put the safety on before pistol whipping suspects.

It's only the proliferation of cctv and phone cameras that is causing more of this stuff to come to light.

The curious thing is that rather than this exposure putting a stop to it, the system stands by it's thugs right to use whatever force they deem necessary.

I'm sure they would try to prosecute the people capturing the evidence if they could.

Maybe there will become a new offence of taking pictures of an officer while on duty, on some terrorism law.
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 05 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

daemonoid wrote:
Anti police at all cost stuff


Have I said that the police were right? No
Have I said th black guy was guilty? No
Have I said that the police shouldn't be brought to task? No
But how often has someone walked into a gas station wearing a ski mask and not been there to do some ill? Not very often.
Doing something like that just for shits and giggles? I find that hard to believe. I'm not saying that it isn't true, but find it very hard to believe and questions should be asked.
Motive for the complaint? $10,000,000. Fot that I would paint myself black and walk into a gas station wearing a ski mask. Mind you all I would probably get is $150 and a packet of cookies.

Something smells fishy about the lads account. Coppers don't normally interupt their donut eating to run after someone just because it is a Tuesday.
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 05 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
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Anti police at all cost stuff


Did you miss the bit where I said we need police and the criminal justice system? Or is it just the bit where I think the police should have to live by the same rules the rest of us do (or even better to set an example) that makes you think I'm anti police?

Skudd wrote:
Have I said that the police were right? No


Just like the Tomlinson discussion you're saying oh, the police aren't in the right, but if the guy had a better attitude he wouldn't be murdered/assaulted and framed.

Skudd wrote:
Have I said th black guy was guilty? No


You used the word blame so yes you explicitly suggested he was guilty of something.

Skudd wrote:
Have I said that the police shouldn't be brought to task? No


Not yet, but you have suggested there's so much more to the story that I get the impression you feel it's all the kids fault.

Skudd wrote:
But how often has someone walked into a gas station wearing a ski mask and not been there to do some ill? Not very often.
Doing something like that just for shits and giggles? I find that hard to believe. I'm not saying that it isn't true, but find it very hard to believe and questions should be asked.
Motive for the complaint? $10,000,000. Fot that I would paint myself black and walk into a gas station wearing a ski mask. Mind you all I would probably get is $150 and a packet of cookies.

Something smells fishy about the lads account. Coppers don't normally interupt their donut eating to run after someone just because it is a Tuesday.


Motive for complaint - getting out of prison after 4 months! 4 months for being assaulted! 10mil is a silly amount and they know it will be brought down in court - probably end up with $100k

Remember also, his mate (not him) was wearing the mask and that no charges were brought! Ie. they clearly didn't rob the store or assault anyone or anything. Whatever your feelings about his friend's choice of clothing the fact remains they committed no crime.
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PostPosted: 15:37 - 06 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:


American officers should be told to put the safety on before pistol whipping suspects.




They shouldn't be pistol whipping anyone this is fucking Lethal Weapon Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:57 - 07 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's true that they shouldnt be pistol whipping people but if they are going to do it, they should at least put the safety on.
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