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Maddsto
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 08 Sep 2012    Post subject: Engine swap. Reply with quote

Hey all,

Currently riding a Suzuki GZ125 Marauder, she is really sluggish and I fear needs alot of TLC when it comes to the engine..

Parked in my garden is my old Suzuki GN125, which is a Cat C write off (nothing at fault with the engine, only written off on cosmetic).. Engine runs like a dream, have test driven private land after getting her back...

My question is, would a engine swap be a simple task between these 2 bikes, and if I was to go ahead with it, what legal requirments do I have to follow? IE. notify DVLA?

Ta,
Matt.
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Pete.
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PostPosted: 23:49 - 08 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only legal requirement you have is to update the log book with the new engine number. You might have to prove where you got it from, which would be easy for you since you own the donor bike.

As for the engine swap - yeah it's easy. So long as none of the engine bolts are stuck in solid, all you have to do it unplug all the wiring, remove the exhaust and chain, remove the carb and drop it out of the frame.
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Maddsto
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PostPosted: 00:17 - 09 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for the info Pete Very Happy

and _Iain_, I had read alot of mixed reviews about the bike before, but I mean mine really struggles.. Just about gets 43mph on a flat, crawls to 25mph on some slight hills.. I'm 5'10 and weight 14st.

One of my mates had the same bike, he's 6'2 and weighed 17st and still got 60 out of his...


Currently, cleaned air filter, cleaned spark, cleaned and tightened chain... which has made little to no difference..
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Maddsto
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PostPosted: 22:48 - 09 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going to give my insurance a ring to see if it will make any difference.

Wouldnt imagine it would though?
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 09 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Engine is pretty much the same, might be an idea to swap the carb over to start with......Sounds like the Carb diaphragm on the GZ is holed, that would explain the sluggy behaviour. Is the GZ burning oil, smoking a lot, knocking etc ????
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Maddsto
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PostPosted: 00:27 - 10 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the spark did have a sooty black tip, running rich I assume?

On the real low revs the bike splutters abit.
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PostPosted: 06:31 - 10 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, an engine 'swap' might be a long way around solving something that isn't a huge issue. What age is the GN? The early models didn't use the diaphragm type carb. Does sound like a running issue that could be fixed, sure fire way to know would be to do a compression test. If compression is good then is only leaves fueling &/or spark as the problem. If the compression is good I wouldn't go to the hassle of swapping an engine that's still dandy, far easier to swap over stuff like Carb, Coil and so on to diagnose what's faulty. Thumbs Up

Has the GZ always run poorly since you've owned it or is it a recent problem that's appeared?
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PostPosted: 10:11 - 11 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a quick question, if your doing an engine swap, will the front sprocket always line up with the rear one or will you have to make them line up?
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 11 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

YellowX5 wrote:

Die.

How am i supposed to know I've never done one before Confused
You know its hard to learn when you don't ask questions Wink
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PostPosted: 13:38 - 11 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

andresoccer10 wrote:
Just a quick question, if your doing an engine swap, will the front sprocket always line up with the rear one or will you have to make them line up?


If its the same engine it should line up otherwise you've done something wrong. If it is a different engine you need to make it line up.

Is this not something you could have worked out for yourself? By thinking about it perhaps?

Jeez, kids these days! Rolling Eyes
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