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cyclistbruce
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PostPosted: 16:16 - 08 Sep 2012    Post subject: Best buy for going slowly! Reply with quote

I've got a role as a marshall in cycling events. These will involve going slowly for long periods of time, including up some fairly big hills. I'll also continue to use it for my commute etc.

I've currently got my favourite bike of all time, an old but reliable VFR750, but it doesn't like getting hot. Any advice on what might be a suitable bike for this role, whilst not losing the daily use of nipping through traffic. I'm not too keen on a pan european, as to be honest, I don't think I'm a big enough rider to cope with it!
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PostPosted: 16:40 - 08 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 16:44 - 08 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about getting a cheap scooter just for the cycle marshalling, and keeping the VFR (you know you'll miss it).

Maybe something like the Honda Vision. Maybe find something that is 100-110 cc rather than a 125. I'd have though the prices would be much lower for the 100-110 cc. I think Yamaha & Suzuki may also have made things of this capacity as well. The CVT gearbox would make it easy to match cycle speeds.

2 bikes is always better than one, and a Honda vision can be a lot of fun in slow traffic.
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 08 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

An air-cooled bike would probably be favourite, or something dervied from an enduro/motocross machine on the basis that they go pretty slowly when used offroad. A DR350 maybe?

Or anything popular with urban dispatch riders. What about an NTV650?
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PostPosted: 17:47 - 08 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

600 divvy mine is so easy to ride slow it's stupid Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 08 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tour chase bikes seem to be nearly exclusively big tourers. Unless you're sweeping people who shouldn't be riding anyway the slowest you're going to be riding is 10-15mph up hills, not really that slow in the scheme of things. Also bear in mind you don't want it too noisy.

If it were me I'd be tempted with a maxi scoot assuming you've space to keep a real bike as well
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 08 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

BMW F650 i reckon. Comfy, excellent on fuel ( i know you didnt specify that, but it cant hurt, right..?) and will pootle along at slow speeds all day.

I used to regularly take mine off road, and it was very happy sitting at 15-20mph whilst i enjoyed the scenery. Off course, it would go faster on the rough stuff but then the suspension started showing its limits.

Anyway, for what you need it for i would say it would be ideal.
There is also the Aprilia Pegaso which is a similar bike.
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PostPosted: 19:01 - 08 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you going to be carrying anyone pillion then? Go test riding with a fat bloke on the back and get him to stand up and move around a bit and choose the bike that feels most comfortable with an unstable mass on the back end. Any bike can be easily handled between 10 and 40 mph, its the load I'd be more concerned about.


if it's just you, use your viffer, getting warm won't do it any harm, if you're worried wire in some computer fans onto the rads with a seperate switch so you can have them running all the time.
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 08 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nthing scooter. Can trivially trickle along at 3 mph if necessary, never get your clutch hand sore slipping.
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PostPosted: 23:41 - 08 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 02:44 - 09 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have just acquired a C90 for the wifes commute to work, don't think I could bring myself to riding it as a marshal though, probably get beaten up the hills! I do need the ability to carry pillions whilst marshalling, which kinda rules out anything too small. I might look at the F650 (didn't they used to be called 'funduros'!. I've also got an ex-army Honda R250, might put some less lumpy tyres on that...

Some of the other marshalls are quite keen on the BMW R1100GS, but I don't know how keen I am on an enduro.
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PostPosted: 08:26 - 09 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you watch any cycling on TV you'll notice that the bikes are almost all BMW. Likely due to some sort of sponsorship deal but I guess they're proven as capable.
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PostPosted: 08:51 - 09 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could also get some 80's 400cc in-line twin motorcycle like CB400, XS400, GS400, and so on. These bikes are very reliable if you do basic maintenance and since they're air cooled they ''practically'' can't overheat. Just change oil and lube the chain Smile

I don't know what do these cost in the UK, but here it's cheap to get one and since we live in the 21. century, parts are just one click away now, so you won't get any trouble to repair anything.
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PostPosted: 09:11 - 09 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's with the air cooled being a good thing for not overheating?

They need a constant air flow to keep them cooled, I'd've thought that 10mph would be the worst speed to drive them at? I know my monster doesn't appreciate it.
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 09 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

daemonoid wrote:
What's with the air cooled being a good thing for not overheating?

They need a constant air flow to keep them cooled, I'd've thought that 10mph would be the worst speed to drive them at? I know my monster doesn't appreciate it.


Yes, but that's Italian and therefore doesn't count. It's also a v-twin and so blasts the back cylinder with heat from the front cylinder at low speeds.

Look at any engine which is designed to be run constantly at low speeds.

Is it liquid or air cooled?

When did you last see a liquid cooled generator or pump engine? Mopeds? Trials bikes?

Go on any slow speed protest ride or parade through a town and it's always liquid cooled bikes that land up dropping out of the group with coolant and steam pissing out of every orifice.

An air cooled engine runs a head temperature of what? 150-200 degrees? Get it 10 to 20 degrees above normal operating temperature and it doesn't really mind. Do the same with a liquid cooled engine and it shits its pants.
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PostPosted: 11:01 - 09 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was about to say that above. Plus, if you've got some oil leak, because of blown gasket or other seal, the engine would still work. I had blown cylinder/head gasket on my former GPz550 and I could get home on it, it was like 18miles, oil was slightly leaking and it made the enginy greasy, no spraying all over the road.

Liquid cooled engine would be most likely not working Folded arms

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PostPosted: 12:14 - 09 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Royal Enfield Trials? Slow is its forte Wink Also fine for commuting if not on DC or Mway
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 09 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

defblade wrote:
Royal Enfield Trials? Slow is its forte Wink Also fine for commuting if not on DC or Mway


Any RE would do fine for this, although you might find yourself being beaten up some hills. They are mainly used for riding round town centres in India so they absolutely won't bother about the heat.

They actually run too cold if anything as occasional RE nerds who have fitted oil temperature guages will tell you.

I'd recommend them but only if a) You're happy sitting at 60mph and dropping to 50 or 45 up steep hills. b) You have some mechanical sympathy (so you can tell the difference between an engine is comfortable with the way it's being ridden and one that's being thrashed) and c) You know one end of a spanner from the other because you need to keep on top of routine maintainance.
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