Gears (detailed response please)

[Peasnall]

Hi everyone my names peasnall and i am new here,

In december i take my CBT and later that month i get an aprilia RS50, what i am asking is can u lot tell me how to:

-Set off
-Changing gears

How to use the clutch with the throttle when setting off and changing gears.

Reagards James
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[MarJay]

Have you ever driven a car?
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[Peasnall]

yes but u carnt FLIP a car
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[sychosis]

If you have a bike already try this on your drive, put it in first, then slowly let the clutch out, when you feel the bike move and the engine noise change apply a little throttle, then slowly release the clutch some more and you will start to go forward. When you change to another gear, throttle down, pull in clutch, change gear start to release clutch whilst reapplying power slowly, this way the engine won't snatch.

edit: Just noticed you don't have a bike yet, when you take you're cbt, the instructor will show you all this anyway. Also it's a good idea to keep your foot on the back brake.
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[Peasnall]

Thanx mate, i have a KX250 in the garage but its too snappy, so i will try it when i get my bike
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[sychosis]

Try it on the 250, put the front wheel against a wall so you don't suddenly go forward, and just get a feel for the bite point
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[instigator]

see on bigger bikes, are you supposed to manually shut off the throttle....i didn't have to on me 125 but on my 500, when i let go of the throttle and change up, the revs dont die quick enough and when i let the clutch out, it accelerates pretty hard as its at high revs...

that normal or do i need to grease some connections to loosen off the throttle?

[stryker]

As far as I know the throttle should close pretty damn fast. If the engine takes a while to come down in revs after you've closed the throttle then you should start considering if there are any issues with the carbs.
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[mr jamez]

[Peasnall]

yeah thanx people for the info
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2000 Aprilia Rs50

Arrow Exhaust, Dell'orto PHBG 19mm, Custom Hanger

[27yo kid]

Just (literally two hours ago!) got my first bike.
Am I right in thinking that if you push down hard you go straight down to first? (even if you were in fourth?)

[Peasnall]

i find pushin it down about 7 times then up one for Neutral
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Arrow Exhaust, Dell'orto PHBG 19mm, Custom Hanger

[stryker]

No you will not. To go from 4th to first requires 3 distinct tap downs. Even then you could be in neutral although on most bikes to hit neutral from 2nd requires a kind of half-tap of the foot.

Also if you come to a stop before hitting first you may be tricked into thinking your in first as the pedal will not go any further. The problem is more often than not, what ever gear you are in while stationary your stuck in till you move the bike forward.

Over that last slow metre or two when stopping I give the pedal a few taps to ensure I'm in first. Although as you get better you'll more naturally be in first or second as you come to a stop.
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[sychosis]

I've found it works from 2nd to 1st, but not from any other gear
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[Bomberman]

[Ste]

Quick point, they'll cover about using the gears and clutch in your CBT so you don't need to know about them to do your CBT.

[nick.h]

[Ste]

There really is no need, the whole idea behind the CBT is to teach you from having never used a bike before to being at a standard safe enough to ride on the roads, if you're wanting to spend time and effort practising using the gears you'll be better doing it after you've done your CBT.

[MarJay]

When I asked if you had ever driven a car, I was asking to try to find out if you knew the basics of clutch control.

If you do then you should be able to relatively easily transfer this to a bike.

You won't flip a 50 in a million years, and as long as you know that the clutch is on the left bar and the gears are on the left peg, you'll be fine.
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[pipnet11]

Dont know if im a one off, but I found changing gear incredibly easy. Japanese gearboxes seem to be incredibly easy and reliable, false neutrals dont seem to exist. The thing that took me a bit of playing with was pulling away, I knew the theory but my brain would not send my arms the right signals. lol Took about 1 1/2 hours to get it right.

I would say try it on the 250 just to get the idea. I find bigger bikes are easier to control clutch wise (my 500 is certainly!) but thats just my opinion

Phill
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[mchaggis]

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[CBRPETER]

Ok simply from a off bike, Hold in clutch while turning key will start the bike, Tap down to first, ease off the clutch while you ease on the accelerator, you'll get the feel of how much to give as you go along, to change to 2nd get off the accelerator, pull in clutch, ease off as you ease on accelerator.

No-one covred this - When braking, hold in brakes while shifting down gears, BUT keep the revs up while your changing gears by giving a bit of accelerator.

As for your theory on how japanese bikes have great gearboxes. Have you ridden the new gsxr 750's, i've had 3 false neutrals on it and iv'e only ridden one twice, probably just me.
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[pipnet11]

[Gazdaman]

My bike's got a neutral between every gear which is a nice added suprise.

Gaz

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