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 Posted: 09:51 - 10 Sep 2012 Post subject: GPX 750R Been stood for about 5 years. What to check? |
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As the title suggests I have just laid my hands on a Kawasaki GPX 750R as a winter poject. Its a 1986 model
It has been dry stored in a garage for about 5 years, (possibly longer)
The previous owner got it at around 19000 miles and has owned it for about 12 years, it is now just on 23k, he last had it on the road about 5 years ago.
The engine has been regularly turned over, and apparently has had new filters, oil and plugs recently (Haven't yet checked to confirm this)
The tank was drained of fuel, with just enough being put in to run it every month or so.
It's got a new battery, starts from cold on the button but is a little lumpy at idle so I'm thinking the carbs need looking at, although this has been done too recently according to the seller. Once warmed up it's a lot better, but still slightly lumpy.
Electrics and lights all work ok too. I'll be checking the usual brakes, tyres chain etc.
Looks like it may need the fork seals doing and the back tyre is definitely past its best. Chain could do with a clean and lube too.
Bodywork is a bit tatty, so will need a paint job at some point, or I could streetfighter it?
Is there anythiing else I should check on this before putting it through an MOT? ____________________ CBT √ Passed, Theory √ Passed, Mod 1 √ Passed, Mod 2 √ Passed
Riding - '87 Kawasaki GPX750R (Rolling Restoration) and '06 YBR125.
Want - Triumph Speed Four or Street Triple
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If it was drained of fuel check the tank for rust  ____________________ CBT done - 24/03/2012, theory test done - 03/04/2012.. Mod 1 done -26/06/2012, Mod 2 done - 29/06/2012. Current steed: Cage.
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 nowhere.elysium The Pork Lord

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 Posted: 10:40 - 10 Sep 2012 Post subject: |
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Rubber*, fluids, battery.
*That's seals, tyres and hoses
As kotachi says, if the tank's been left fairly empty, then there's a chance that some rust may have formed. If it has, then it's worth taking a look at my GS resurrection thread, because it has a rather good writeup by Robby on how to acid strip a tank's innards.
Sorting the carbs is a pain in the arse, but a valuable learning experience. You've also got the advantage that it's been run periodically - I had to scrub 3 decades' worth of sediment out of mine.
You'll want to replace the tyres anyway - they'll have gone hard over time, and won't be much fun to ride one. Also, keep a close eye on the chain - personally, I'd replace it, but YMMV. Since it's not been ridden for a while, then the chain's not been under any stresses, but it also means that the O rings may have perished. ____________________ '10 SV650SF, '83 GS650GT (it lives!), Questionable DIY dash project, 3D Printer project, Lasercutter project |
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Its all been said really..
Fluids will also include fork oil.. i suspect this will need doing as all of the rubbish will have sat at the bottom of the forks. Change seals while you are at it..
Coolant,fuel,brake fluid.. Bin tyres and get new as said.Chain might be ok as long as there are no stiff parts in it.If there is then bin it and replace.
If it were me i would go over everything and just check things.. Like while the rear wheel is out lube the linkages..
Front wheel out (with forks) ....lube headbearings.. you get the idea..
grab yourself a haynes manual as this will help you.. in the front of these there i a service checklist type thing IIRC.. use this as your guide. ____________________ www.Mailorderrepairs.co.uk We service your Carburetor's, Calipers & Suspension for less Also Bike repairs undertaken. |
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 nowhere.elysium The Pork Lord

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| Budgetboy wrote: | Fluids will also include fork oil.. i suspect this will need doing as all of the rubbish will have sat at the bottom of the forks. Change seals while you are at it.. |
Meh. I didn't have a problem with it, in my case, and my bike had been sat for a good couple of times the period that this one has. Changing the fork oil was an improvement, but it wasn't as world-shattering as I thought it might be.
| Budgetboy wrote: | grab yourself a haynes manual as this will help you.. in the front of these there i a service checklist type thing IIRC.. use this as your guide. |
As I've already indicated in this post, the Haynes manuals aren't anywhere near as good as they're made out to be. Traditionally, they were very good - proper exploded diagrams (and not just bad photocopies form the manufacturer's manual, either), but they've since gone downhill quite badly. Get hold of the Manufacturer's workshop manual - Carl Salter's site is an absolute godsend for this sort of stuff.
Manufacturer manual > Clymer manual > Haynes manual. ____________________ '10 SV650SF, '83 GS650GT (it lives!), Questionable DIY dash project, 3D Printer project, Lasercutter project |
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Hydraulic lifters on the GPX so don't die of fright if it rattles like a bucket of chains when you first start it. Might be a good idea to disable the ignition and give it a good long crank over to bring the oil up first. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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If my GPX was anything to go by, the clutch will probably be stuck, and take a lot of rocking and swearing to free off!  ____________________ BWJ
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| nowhere.elysium wrote: | | Budgetboy wrote: | Fluids will also include fork oil.. i suspect this will need doing as all of the rubbish will have sat at the bottom of the forks. Change seals while you are at it.. |
Meh. I didn't have a problem with it, in my case, and my bike had been sat for a good couple of times the period that this one has. Changing the fork oil was an improvement, but it wasn't as world-shattering as I thought it might be.
| Budgetboy wrote: | grab yourself a haynes manual as this will help you.. in the front of these there i a service checklist type thing IIRC.. use this as your guide. |
As I've already indicated in this post, the Haynes manuals aren't anywhere near as good as they're made out to be. Traditionally, they were very good - proper exploded diagrams (and not just bad photocopies form the manufacturer's manual, either), but they've since gone downhill quite badly. Get hold of the Manufacturer's workshop manual - Carl Salter's site is an absolute godsend for this sort of stuff.
Manufacturer manual > Clymer manual > Haynes manual. |
Think a fork seal may be shot anyway, previous owner said it seemed to dive on left hand corners when he took it for a spin the other day, so I'll definitely check that.
Agree with the Haynes, quality of both the information and the paper they're actuall printed on is not what it used to be!
| Pete. wrote: | Hydraulic lifters on the GPX so don't die of fright if it rattles like a bucket of chains when you first start it. Might be a good idea to disable the ignition and give it a good long crank over to bring the oil up first. |
Didn't notice it the other day when I went to look at it, but I wasn't particularly listening for it. Will check that too.
| Triumph1300 wrote: | If my GPX was anything to go by, the clutch will probably be stuck, and take a lot of rocking and swearing to free off!  |
It seemed to work ok when I looked yesterday, but will have a proper look when I get it in my garage.
Thanks for all the replies and tips guys, should be picking the bike up tomorrow eve, so will have a better look then.
May do a show and tell on the restoration if anyones interested? (Plus I can pick your brains too)  ____________________ CBT √ Passed, Theory √ Passed, Mod 1 √ Passed, Mod 2 √ Passed
Riding - '87 Kawasaki GPX750R (Rolling Restoration) and '06 YBR125.
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so basically it basically check everything, basically.......
start at the front and work your way to the back, steady as you go and service everthing in between.
some pics would be good, check exploded views on cmnsl......... etc........  |
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Wasn't it a version of the GPX motor that was later used in the ZXR750 in '89? Looks very similar.
Timing belt then, isn't it? ____________________ NSR125RR - ZXR750H1 - ZX9R E1 - GSF600S - GSF600SK3 - VFR400-NC30 - SV1000N - ST1100-R - CBR900RR-R - GSF1200SK5 - GSF600SK1 - VFR1200FA - GSXR1000K2 - ZZR1400 D8F
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GPX has cam chain, mechanical valve clearances, and belt drive alternator ____________________ BWJ
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 14 years, 25 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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